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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): We had space to just share a little bit.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): We're exploring. And and this month's theme for me really was like around

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): surrender and letting go, and also like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): the path of devotional surrender. But that dancing of with devotion to the divine that involves a kind of letting go into sacred care. So we're talking also about that need of like there's so much to do. And yet sometimes we just want to like curl up into a little burrito, and, you know, lay on the couch, and and how to how it is necessary to do that, and how to do that without

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): guilt or shame or like feeling like we're not doing enough.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And the question arose and welcome. You're welcome, Megan, to share anything that's coming up for you, you know. Related to this, or separate in the chatter out loud in a moment. But the question was kind of put forth, so how do you rest without guilt.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): you know, and one is like knowing for me. These are my practices.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So it's like the clacker, right? It's the nervous system. Clacker right? The let's see if I can find

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): a picture of this. But my nervous system, it really kind of like articulated into

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): fight or flight a lot. And

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I don't know if I'm gonna find it.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Let me see. And so, knowing that sometimes

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): part of what my nervous system is doing

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): is kind of bringing me back into a state of dis-ease

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): because it's my habit energy because of my own life experiences and trauma right, which dovetails with systemic issues

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): to be sort of in fight or flight, or into associate, you know.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): for me it's more fight or flight. So I just tend to like Pop, pop, pop, pop, you know if you think of like, and not that it's bad. It's kind of like Julian is saying like, feel it right, and then like, come back. But for me for the longest, like years and years I could. I really couldn't rest. And even still, I'm only just learning how to actually rest, because I'll like pop myself back into, you know, that stress state. And so it's my like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): understanding that it's okay to kind of go down

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And I think of it, like my clacker is the word that I use, or like that nervous system. It's okay for my nervous system to kind of like slow down my breath, to slow down my body, to slow down

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and to ride that because it's gonna carry me into the next time that I need to be like at the action or at the protest, or, you know, whatever

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): have the energy to move back up. So I do

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): try to just like in that way of working with nature, working with energy, follow my own energy there, and really rest like while I'm there and not be like, oh, I should be doing this, I should be doing that, but just let myself like.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And then for me also, I think I've had some physical, you know, like times that showed me. Oh, no, you really have to rest like if you don't.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Your body is breaking down, you know, and so I think hopefully we don't all have to get to get there. But knowing that it really is okay, and it doesn't mean you're not going to go back up. I think I used to be afraid that I wouldn't, you know, wouldn't be able to come back. And I'm gonna look for the picture, but just welcoming in any other thoughts.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I found it so cool. So this, let me see.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Share my screen.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Can you all see that?

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So here is like our ventral vagus, right? Parasympathetic kind of down here.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Healthy response, social engagement, curiosity, self regulation, presence, right like all of these things, kind of what we were talking about, compassion, self-regulation, all of that.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And so then there's like the emotional states

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): that get activated fight or flight response. So all this sort of like on the spectrum of fear various, you know, from nervous or anxious all the way up to like full out and same here

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): from sadness to annoyed to frustrated, to rage right so and then here.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): if we're kind of activated into these, the things that can help us

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): are these self-regulation or bringing relaxation right? And then up here we can also, like, go into like go all the way through

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): the parasympathetic, sorry, the sympathetic into parasympathetic again, which is like shutting down, numbing, freezing, avoiding right, and all pretty much everywhere. To care for these things

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): is compassion, compassion for ourselves, compassion for the situation.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): If we're here too much right kind of like ping ponging, which again, from experience like from dissociation into like all the stress feelings, then it can lead to Ptsd, you know, can trauma can also, of course, cause it, but different things that become like a way of life, right? Which is for me how I was kind of living up here.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): so it's not about not feeling any of these things or not doing these things right. It's just about kind of like, instead of ping ponging like this, or like long, you know, weeks, months here, or even here, kind of like feeling the feeling and then coming back down right, feeling the feeling, processing the experience and coming back. And so some of the tools are things like breathing

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): being present, all the Yogic tools right thinking before acting, pausing.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): moving, meditation, talking with someone journal journaling right? Sharing in a vulnerable way and

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): remembering kind of like contractions.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): or pain, right like, is it? It doesn't stay right. It's gonna be. It's gonna move, anyway. So allowing it to just flow. And that includes when we need to disassociate or numb or shut down like it's not. We're not gonna stay there. We're gonna be there for some time, and then we're, gonna you know, maybe move back into like that more healthy

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): kind of centered, engaged, curious present place. And then we're going to get frustrated right, or whatever frightened or anxious or scared, you know, and then move back back in so even for me, things like choosing when I look at the news.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): not early in the morning, not late at night, because it gets me all here right every time right now. So that type of thing I put in the middle of the day these days, instead of early or late, and if I do it early or late, I notice that it interferes with like self regulation, and I have to practice

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): so any thoughts or or questions about that that help a helpful framing.

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Carly Joelle: Yeah. And your shared experience, plus the fact that, like charts and graphs exist, just is a great reminder like these are human experiences.

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Carly Joelle: We've got tools. Just this is, this is the work.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): yeah. And we, the other thing that helps me, too, is like, we have different clackers, like, some of us come online. But like seriously fast, right? And then our life and environment and circumstances either kind of helps us soothe that, or for most of us, honestly, it like makes it go faster. And then some of us come online, you know, thinking ayurvetically, like a Kappa type with a more slow kind of regular

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): right, maybe prone to like down depression right really slow. And

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): generally, our world is also not set up to help or support people there either. Right? So

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): for me, the other thing is not comparing myself. I know I'm like one of those, because I'm like here, and part of it is like I do so much because fast, right? But I've had to learn to like slow down and say no, and do less, and so that I'm more on that side of learning how to do, how to do this, and then not judge myself or blame myself when I'm in that I'm in that state. It's like bringing in the wisdom of opposite.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): thank you for that, Megan. Anything that's arising for you right now that you want to bring into the space or share, and we'll also do a little practice in a moment.

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Megan Mathers (she/her): The conversation feels pretty resonant for me as well. I was able to rewatch

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Megan Mathers (she/her): the last Pooja talking about Brahmacharya and energy management, and even just

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Megan Mathers (she/her): hearing again your experience and how you're giving yourself permission to take naps and

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Megan Mathers (she/her): what you said, that we are a drop in the ocean, and we are the ocean that's been in my mind this kind of this whole time. And even as I

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Megan Mathers (she/her): and just aware of my mindset around whenever I

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Megan Mathers (she/her): take rest, and how I feel when I don't show up the way that I want to, or how I

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Megan Mathers (she/her): think I should. so yeah, here.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Figuring it out, too.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Thank you.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah. You're sharing the drop in the ocean. And and the ocean reminded me to some of the folks I know who are longtime activists like they reflect. You know, I feel like in the newer

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): era, like the younger times. Newer doesn't have to mean actually younger, but like new to activism work, it's kind of like, there's this full on pressure like, you got to show up. You got to be at everything. You got to do all the things, and then, like the sort of folks who've been there for a while are like, No, it's okay, like you rest. Other people will move forward, you know. It's like the wave in the ocean, like when you're in the

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): crest. Sometimes you're like up and out there and then other times. You're kind of like here, and you know, back like. But knowing that you're not alone like you're held by so many others, and one of the things

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): that someone shared with me this week that I didn't know like. I was so inspired when I saw Harvard was standing up to the trump administration, and then my friend shared with me. Now there's like almost 200 other colleges across the country that have signed, you know, a letter, and are like resisting.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Obviously the Aclu is like has been the, you know, major institution I've looked to, but to know that there's so many others right? That's like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): wave amongst so many waves, you know, really like an ocean of resistance. And so yes, we can raise our voices, or we can do things, but we can also be like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): there's other people doing things, too, you know, we're not the only ones. It's not all on us. And so it can be this real like practice of interconnectedness.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah. And we have different roles to play, you know, like.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I don't think I ever. I've not regretted not becoming a lawyer until this year, I was like, I would have been really useful as a lawyer. But

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): yeah, I don't think that would have worked out so well for me, you know, like it wasn't in my nature

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I could have done it, but it wouldn't have been right, you know. And so then it's like right? I can donate to the Aclu I can support. I can share their work, you know. I don't have to be doing the thing. I can just support the thing. You know that that's been like one process I've been in as well.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Because, yeah, I mean, I live in a suburb of La with my family.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I'm at home a lot. I work from home, you know, so that's a very different life than when I was 1st getting into the movement, and like out in public school with 3,000 students, mostly black and brown students, every day going to actions, you know, through the week, through the weekend. Now I go to like one action. Some weekends, you know, so it is very different. It's a different stage of life, and I have different responsibilities, you know, and

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I can't judge the me now by what I did then, and that's just myself. You know where my friends who don't have kids now, and the things that they're doing versus where I'm at, citizen, non-citizen, you know, there's there's so many like we just have our particular

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): things that were called forward into, and

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): the one piece, though I will say, is, I do sometimes still have conversations with like close friends where I'm like, are we just armchair activists. Now, you know, like, are we doing enough? And I think those conversations are good to have the trusted, you know, kind of circle where you know they're not going to judge you or put you down, but they are going to hold you

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): to what your values are. And if you're living your values, which to some extent, I think, for me, like our circles, are right. These, when we come together, is like, Are we actually

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): am I actually practicing or living them, and and without judgment, I think it's without judgment, but with just like, let's be a mirror. Let's be a reflection. Let's like, is there something more I am.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I just got, and I'll move into our practice in a second. But I'll share again. So back in the early days this is like one of those fun things. I

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): wheat pasted

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): during the Iraq War bees, posters all over la watching, waiting, dreaming, and it was so cool we like went out at night, and, you know, like went to billboard like like places where you can. We paste right? Visit, wearing all black all of those things, and we're about to go.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I almost wanna go get the physical ones because they're so cool. But I'll show you on canva

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Here they are.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So we made these

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): that we're gonna go wheat, paste around while I'm on the book tour, right? So it's like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): around Yoga spaces or like places like everyone in La, which is like a wellness place, right like and I had to change it from Tesla. So we didn't get to. But basically we're trying to

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and Amazon same. And then like this one around trans rights like.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): just like right I my, my form of protest is often

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): artistic, right? It's like it's ritual, it's art, it's

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): It doesn't have to just look one way, you know, and and so.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and it kind of like brings me alive when I'm doing the things that are aligned with my. There's a little bit of like illegality sometimes, you know, like it's a little on the border of. Is this allowed or not allowed? It'll hopefully make people think, you know there's. And so it's that like coming together.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So I would say in this moment less so, armchair activist, right? But even if so, it's like.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I think other people would be like what Suzanne of our Kentucky worries about that like I. But I do right. And so I I think, also just knowing that feeling of like, are we doing enough? Or it's never enough.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): That's that cycle of craving and aversion that's that cycle of like. Not enough this. So it may always be there, no matter what we do. And so why not just have fun doing the things that we're going to do, and then have fun and enjoy the down the rest when the rest comes? You know that was a long way of answering your question.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Thought I would share that the personal

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): anything that's arising before we move into a little practice.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Okay, okay, beautiful.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So let's take a moment and stretch

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): arms away from your body, any amount.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): lifting them up over your head and to one side, and then the other side.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and then in any way that feels aligned and supportive to you, invoking a kind of gesture of surrender with your body, so that might be a forward fold, or it might be just like kind of massaging, or putting your hands over your heart.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): folding down.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and then on your next inhale slightly coming up, exhale, release a little further.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): inhale and exhale, and then gently rising up

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): as you come up, lifting your arms

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): towards the sky, and bringing them down and letting them kind of sweep down your body, and like sweeping away or sweeping any. Anything that you want to release could be judgment could be, you know.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): like just brushing off, brushing away.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and then inhaling arms up again. An exhale went to one side.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and as you twist from your belly, from your chest, from your eyes and chin.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): What am I releasing

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): on your next inhale, coming back up and around to center

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): exhale, twisting to the other side.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): It's twisting all the way around.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): What am I inviting? In

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): 9 9 up, and then exhale arms come down, finding an easeful way to be

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): could be seated, standing, lying down.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Let your gaze be soft, or your eyes be gently closed.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): deep breath in, and full breath out listening with your heart.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Next Tuesday is a celebration of the story of the 6th avatar of Vishnu, whose name is Para Shurama.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): known for his righteous anger, and also for moving through violence

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and anger into the wisdom of being a sage and teacher.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): someone who practiced deep compassion.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Long ago there lived the warrior sage Parasharama, born not from fire, but from paradox.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): He was a Brahmin by birth.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Anashatriya by Karma, meaning a warrior.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): He carried in his hand a weapon that had been gifted to him by Shiva himself a heavy axe.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): forged from divine rage, and Parasharama lived with this tension.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Warrior born a sage or sage, born a warrior.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): As he grew.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): His family experienced some wrongful discrimination and harm, and he immediately Parashrama struck back.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Not once, but the story goes, used his axe 21 times

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): the earth shuddered, the forests wept, even the rivers recoiled and left the land.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and when his vengeance was finished he stood alone, his hands gripping the axe, but his heart hollow.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): He tried to let it go, and threw the axe into the sea.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): until one day, overcome and unsure what to do, he fell to his knees, and he prayed.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Who am I? What am I without my weapon?

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And the answer came not with a voice or thunder, but in silence.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): You are not your rage, you are the stillness beneath it.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): holding on to his power, keeping his essence of the warrior.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and wherever he walked the ocean flowed back.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): this is how the western coast of India was formed Concanigoa Kerala, born not from conquest, but from surrender.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): revered for his acts, and also for his courage to walk in peace and to lay it down.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): what might be returned to me until I learn from it.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So not with any judgment. Not like we're doing it wrong.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): where might surrender be more powerful than force, more power or control.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): imagining that you or Parasharama, whatever feels more aligned, are standing at the shore of the ocean, the ocean.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): this gift of the flower, water, leaf, breath anything, and I trust, what rises next.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I trust, what rises next.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): my mantra ends up, going like 3 times like trust, trust, trust, trust, trust, surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender with the step and the breath.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): to the earth that always allows us to and holds us as we surrender.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and invitation to share, if you would like anything that arose, and I will say before I open it up, part of why I wanted to bring in walking. Meditation is, you know, sometimes, particularly in times of great duress, like when to. So I learned walking meditation, though I think it's been done historically by Buddhists and Yoga practitioners, you know, for thousands of years. I particularly was taught it by thich Nhat, Han and Thich Nhat Han

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and by the morning he got clear, and they did go, they were able to rescue and not get caught in that particular instance. But what I love about the practice is that it can be one that's there with us, even when we can't sit, even when we're too busy, or we're too agitated, you know, to do like the formal practices. It's its own formal practice. And it's also a bit more accessible.

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Carly Joelle: For me.

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Carly Joelle: What I'm feeling coming up is just like

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Carly Joelle: the continuation that this is just

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Carly Joelle: rising and falling, and so how I feel right now isn't how I'll feel forever

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Carly Joelle: and do what I can when I can.

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Carly Joelle: This was all really helpful.

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Carly Joelle: I'm not articulating it as much as it's living in here.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah, yeah, it's like, what I hear is like, a bit more ease.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And no pressure to share Megan. But invitation. If you would like to.

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Megan Mathers (she/her): I feel a little bit of piggybacking off of what Carly said, but just

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Megan Mathers (she/her): that walking meditation, and like trusting that with each step the floor was gonna meet my foot and be underneath me. So this like Carly said this

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Megan Mathers (she/her): continuation and the process, and trusting each step that I'm going to be met with each step. Where I'm at.

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Megan Mathers (she/her): Yeah. And I think I'm just gonna sit with that for a little bit longer.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And I'm so glad like, I just wanna say, you know, like, sometimes.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I don't know if either of you teach that much. But sometimes it's like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): the right thing comes through, and also like this, what happened here like, I had a little bit of a plan, but then we talked, and I got the teaching, too, that I need, because 2 things. One is the walking meditation, I think, is going to be really helpful for me while I'm on tour. All of May. I'm all over the country.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And then, just before our call, I got an email.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So my very 1st book, I got a trademark complaint right before it launched

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): by a non-indian person who's like you can't use the words Honor yoga. So I had to change the title, change the book.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): and I just got notice that we got the trademark for. Ignite your yoga like

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): so. I can control those words or that language, but because I believe in the freedom of everyone to use whatever words they want. Right? So it's a weird. It's like the axe coming back. But this time it came back

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): So it's a yeah. So that was really cool. And I just appreciate the space to

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): to be like changing cycles, right? Changing patterns, kind of helping ourselves go through these things in our lives, but in a more

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): But thank you. Thank you. To to you and Juliana, and everyone who is here in spirit. Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): And we can close. I think it's time. Yeah, we can close. And then I'll see you all.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah, in 2 weeks. It's amazing, actually, how I must have planned it this way.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): In 2 weeks I will be

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): back home. So I will actually be.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): is that right? Yeah, it's the second.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): it just works out, I'll be here. So I don't. It's we're not canceling, which is nice.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): I'll see you again on the 14th of May.

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Susanna Barkataki (She/They): Yeah, yeah, thank you. And just sending you lots of care and well wishes.

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Megan Mathers (she/her): Thank you so much.

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