WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:04.779 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Welcome welcome. We'll take just a moment and 2 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:08.939 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): stretch a little bit wherever you are 3 00:00:09.970 --> 00:00:12.059 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): seeing up a big shape. 4 00:00:13.430 --> 00:00:14.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm! 5 00:00:16.780 --> 00:00:24.610 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's so good to be together in community, and to be able to 6 00:00:24.910 --> 00:00:26.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just 7 00:00:26.400 --> 00:00:33.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): connect and practice and share. So, taking a moment to 8 00:00:34.190 --> 00:00:42.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): move in any ways that your body has needed, and if you're not sure, maybe just twisting a little bit left and right. 9 00:00:50.570 --> 00:00:52.050 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 10 00:00:52.700 --> 00:00:54.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): side to side. 11 00:00:57.660 --> 00:01:04.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I want to invite us into after you feel kind of satisfied of movement, so no rush 12 00:01:04.721 --> 00:01:12.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but into a little, just a little bit of silence. I am back from a 6 day. Silent meditation, retreat 13 00:01:12.610 --> 00:01:15.509 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that I went on last last week. 14 00:01:16.100 --> 00:01:23.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I've been reflecting on the power of Mauna MAUN. A. Of silence. 15 00:01:23.740 --> 00:01:26.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so we'll do a little bit of a 16 00:01:26.520 --> 00:01:32.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): drop in, and I'll guide us into silence and then back. 17 00:01:32.750 --> 00:01:44.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because it's so precious to have time to just be intentionally quiet, and to get to do it in community is even another layer of preciousness. 18 00:01:46.390 --> 00:01:50.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's such a rare thing, you know, in a world that's always like. 19 00:01:50.690 --> 00:01:55.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): has something that wants to be told, or wants something from us. 20 00:01:55.720 --> 00:01:58.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to just be to be together 21 00:01:58.910 --> 00:02:13.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and be with ourselves. And I do wanna also say, before I start guiding for me. One of the biggest Ahas was, how not silent it is inside, you know, when there's that external opportunity for external silence. 22 00:02:14.090 --> 00:02:15.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I spent 23 00:02:15.420 --> 00:02:18.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the 1st like 2 days, besides being really tired. 24 00:02:19.097 --> 00:02:27.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's like, Oh, my gosh! I'm constantly planning. My my mental busyness was not about work. Thank goodness, that was really cool. I was. 25 00:02:27.760 --> 00:02:29.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It was funny to see that, but 26 00:02:30.290 --> 00:02:49.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): wasn't really about anything other than like the next steps I was gonna take the food where I was gonna sit when I was gonna get a shower. I was like, what? Why am I? Why am I 5 steps ahead. On this day, instead of being right here on the cushion or the chair a lot of times I was on the chair. 27 00:02:49.690 --> 00:02:50.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so 28 00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:56.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I had to just develop a sense of humor about it, and instead of 29 00:02:56.460 --> 00:03:00.679 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): planning, I would just say to myself, I'm sitting here 30 00:03:00.870 --> 00:03:13.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or just sitting here, right sitting is happening. I'm sitting. I'm walking, whatever it was, so don't necessarily expect, because we're practicing silence for it to be silent. That's pretty rare. 31 00:03:13.990 --> 00:03:17.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So. Let me 32 00:03:17.630 --> 00:03:19.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): fine. There it is 33 00:03:19.350 --> 00:03:20.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when a bell. 34 00:03:24.790 --> 00:03:26.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): okay. 35 00:03:26.540 --> 00:03:27.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 36 00:03:28.540 --> 00:03:30.849 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like the bell and guide us. 37 00:04:31.850 --> 00:04:33.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): deep breath in 38 00:04:35.380 --> 00:04:37.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): full breath out. 39 00:04:43.710 --> 00:04:47.029 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): beginning perhaps with some gratitude. 40 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.129 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): What a gift to be able to have this opportunity to practice 41 00:04:57.500 --> 00:04:59.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): even in the middle of a busy 42 00:04:59.960 --> 00:05:02.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): week. Busy work day. 43 00:05:15.340 --> 00:05:18.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): noticing the space between 44 00:05:18.790 --> 00:05:20.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): between breaths. 45 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The pause at the top of your inhale 46 00:05:25.260 --> 00:05:27.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): at the bottom of your exhale 47 00:05:29.640 --> 00:05:32.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): dropping into the silence. 48 00:05:41.250 --> 00:05:43.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's a few ways to practice with this 49 00:05:44.280 --> 00:05:47.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): one is just to continue to focus on your breath. 50 00:05:48.830 --> 00:05:50.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Another 51 00:05:50.250 --> 00:05:53.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): might be to focus on sound 52 00:05:53.830 --> 00:05:55.220 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): noticing 53 00:05:55.410 --> 00:05:58.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): sounds close and far away. 54 00:05:59.940 --> 00:06:02.210 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'll stop talking and 55 00:06:02.830 --> 00:06:07.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): create some space for us to be with silence together. 56 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Guide us back 57 00:06:09.450 --> 00:06:10.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with the bow. 58 00:10:39.150 --> 00:10:40.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you. 59 00:10:41.330 --> 00:10:42.897 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So deep, breath in 60 00:10:43.670 --> 00:10:45.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and full breath out 61 00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:49.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): next breath, maybe breathing out with a sigh. 62 00:10:54.030 --> 00:10:55.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then keeping 63 00:10:56.040 --> 00:10:57.540 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): about 64 00:10:58.010 --> 00:11:01.320 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe 50, 60% awareness internal. 65 00:11:01.630 --> 00:11:05.819 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then the other 50 40 external. 66 00:11:06.450 --> 00:11:07.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm. 67 00:11:09.290 --> 00:11:14.749 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and invite. If you'd like to share how you're doing in the chat. 68 00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:16.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And please 69 00:11:17.670 --> 00:11:19.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): please do. 70 00:11:19.970 --> 00:11:21.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 71 00:11:21.590 --> 00:11:24.869 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just so so nice to take some time 72 00:11:25.680 --> 00:11:26.329 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to 73 00:11:27.250 --> 00:11:28.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to practice together. 74 00:11:34.210 --> 00:11:36.749 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): gonna pull up. We had some 75 00:11:36.870 --> 00:11:39.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): questions today. 76 00:11:40.710 --> 00:11:42.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So let me 77 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:44.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): all those 78 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:53.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and a couple of these, I actually feel like, I feel like will be really nice to kind of crowdsource. 79 00:11:53.910 --> 00:11:56.806 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because I don't necessarily ha know the 80 00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:58.966 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the answers. 81 00:12:00.340 --> 00:12:06.149 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and certainly not all the answers. So they're one of our questions. 82 00:12:07.520 --> 00:12:09.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Bonnie, and I'm glad you're here. 83 00:12:10.030 --> 00:12:11.210 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Anne. 84 00:12:12.060 --> 00:12:14.869 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I'm gonna read your questions in a second. But 85 00:12:15.290 --> 00:12:16.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. 86 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:25.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's hot today. Calming silences. Silence is good practice. Yeah. And before I go into 87 00:12:26.410 --> 00:12:29.040 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): our questions they just want to invite us to 88 00:12:29.260 --> 00:12:32.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): notice the silence. Right? And it might be 89 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the silence with your 90 00:12:35.620 --> 00:12:40.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cup of coffee or tea in the morning before the day goes roaring off. 91 00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:46.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or in the evening even just a few minutes in your bed before you go to sleep. 92 00:12:47.060 --> 00:12:48.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm 93 00:12:50.310 --> 00:12:54.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me. I've been also noticing lately the silence with 94 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:03.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): people in my life. I think I often feel like I need to fill the silence. And so I've just been sitting like with my kiddo or 95 00:13:03.390 --> 00:13:20.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): my partner. It's easier we met doing a lot of silent retreat. So we're fine, just being in silence. But with my kiddo I'm like, I don't have to be the fun, mom, or the entertaining, you know, like we can just be. And what's been cool is they've been sharing a lot more 96 00:13:20.610 --> 00:13:28.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because I haven't been filling the space with whatever it is, you know. So just noticing 97 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:32.519 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): all the ways that silence can be a practice. 98 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:53.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so bonnie, 2 wonderful questions. Is there a low cost way? And I'd love to bring in for folks to share their answers to this as well to include. They see music and background music in recorded meditations I usually use 99 00:13:53.910 --> 00:14:08.819 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in Compa tech because it's royalty, free and completely free to use, and projects with attribution. Why, I didn't know that that's really cool. Is there a way to include South Asian artists. If there's a way to include South Asian artists, I'd be open to that as well. 100 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:10.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I just can't 101 00:14:10.490 --> 00:14:19.789 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): find a way to know that I'm using the music in a way that it's intended. For example, listening on spotify is not the same as adding it to my recorded productions. 102 00:14:20.050 --> 00:14:25.759 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, it's so true. And it's tricky cause I look for 103 00:14:27.110 --> 00:14:51.509 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for music that's royalty free that I can use in the background of my stuff, too. And so the sort of workaround that I used for everything in Ycc. Is, and not everyone I just want to also name like this comes from a place of privilege of being able to pay. But I paid Sarathy Garibala, and I'll write there 104 00:14:51.690 --> 00:15:00.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): contact info in the chat in a minute. I think we I can't remember the exact amount is somewhere between 100 300 per track 105 00:15:01.389 --> 00:15:06.839 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for them to create music that then we could use in our meditations. 106 00:15:06.970 --> 00:15:23.799 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and also puja expu created the mantras right, for so that was something that when I had the resources I did when I even find Indian music in or like they see style music in. 107 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.170 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I sometimes use what is it called 108 00:15:27.300 --> 00:15:28.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): soundcloud? 109 00:15:30.590 --> 00:15:41.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, my gosh motion array, which has sounds. It's not usually Indian artists making Indian sounds. And so that that was part of why we moved to 110 00:15:41.800 --> 00:15:54.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of contracting with specific artists. So does anyone know a way where we can do that right like not just listening, but to actually put it on our videos or put it on our 111 00:15:55.136 --> 00:15:56.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): our productions. 112 00:15:58.740 --> 00:16:03.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I will, I'll put the resources that we shared. So the sort of 113 00:16:03.550 --> 00:16:06.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): public domain with attribution 114 00:16:06.930 --> 00:16:12.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): would be encompate. Is that right? That's what you said, and then. 115 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:14.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I use 116 00:16:14.580 --> 00:16:16.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): motion array 117 00:16:16.430 --> 00:16:21.105 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or capcut has a lot of music that's 118 00:16:22.150 --> 00:16:31.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That's royalty free. But the only way I've figured to go to actually kind of credit and get the resources to the artists is to go to the artists 119 00:16:31.590 --> 00:16:32.820 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): themselves. 120 00:16:32.900 --> 00:16:54.129 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and generally, you know, in all the cases we asked them, what would you like to be paid? It wasn't like we were like, we're gonna pay you this. It was like what we would love to get some music for a meditation track. That we can use. What would your rates be? And they told us the rates, and then we paid them the rates, and and like, I said, I think 121 00:16:54.340 --> 00:17:05.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): was around like a hundred dollars per somewhere between 100 300 per track. But because we did multiple tracks, I think it was closer to 100. So and then 122 00:17:06.010 --> 00:17:12.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I've used them for years right like they're they're beautiful. I've used them on live things that I've done. 123 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Part of you know. The contract when we set it up is that 124 00:17:16.300 --> 00:17:21.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when I use it like on a Youtube live or something? I'll always put the 125 00:17:21.609 --> 00:17:25.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): credit the artist as well. So let me find 126 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:27.750 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Srirathi's 127 00:17:27.770 --> 00:17:30.461 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cause. This is what Srathy does. 128 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:35.760 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But they changed their Instagram. So let me 129 00:17:36.090 --> 00:17:38.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): make sure I have. Yeah. 130 00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:39.610 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): okay. 131 00:17:40.560 --> 00:17:41.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hmm. 132 00:17:45.530 --> 00:17:46.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. 133 00:17:47.210 --> 00:17:49.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): give me a second, and I will drop there. 134 00:17:58.790 --> 00:18:01.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): No, that doesn't look right. 135 00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:05.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's gonna take this a second 136 00:18:16.130 --> 00:18:20.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Does anyone else have thoughts on this, on how we can. 137 00:18:20.410 --> 00:18:23.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how we can, you know. And, Bonnie, do you want to speak to it at all? 138 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:44.170 Bonnie W (she/they): This is great. I was just a little bit nervous about going to the artist themselves. So I I'm really grateful for you sharing their names and information, and also I couldn't find them directly, so I wasn't even sure if I was in the right place. So thank you. 139 00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:46.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 140 00:18:51.040 --> 00:18:53.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm just trying to pull up their 141 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:54.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): their account. 142 00:18:56.820 --> 00:18:57.629 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, wait. Now. 143 00:19:08.250 --> 00:19:14.660 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna share their email because they're social. I'm not. I'm not finding it. 144 00:19:19.120 --> 00:19:21.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And you can just let them know 145 00:19:21.140 --> 00:19:24.687 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you want, you know. Hey, I got this from Susanna. 146 00:19:25.050 --> 00:19:27.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So the Sarathy 147 00:19:27.840 --> 00:19:31.294 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): music at Gmail, and I think they use there. Then. 148 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): they're 149 00:19:33.770 --> 00:19:36.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): they're a musician and and artist. 150 00:19:38.830 --> 00:19:47.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But if there's other artists that you love. You can go to them directly, you know, and you can ask them, because often 151 00:19:48.480 --> 00:20:07.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's so much exploitation in the in the music world that it's really appreciated when we do wanna like credit and support. And I think musicians and artists are used to like getting paid and exposure. But exposure. It's not, you know, it's helpful, but it's not it's not enough. 152 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.180 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So other than that. 153 00:20:11.448 --> 00:20:26.211 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think this is a good. It's like something. I'll continue to research. I'll ask my like Trish, who works with me on social media cause. She may know some other places where we can directly go to 154 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:28.570 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to artists themselves. 155 00:20:29.890 --> 00:20:33.590 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then you had a second part to your question, which I'm just pulling up. 156 00:20:42.580 --> 00:20:56.260 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, it disappeared. Is it true that ancient Yogis developed Asana to help them meditate longer. I always heard that. But now I want to make sure it's actually true. You know. 157 00:20:58.330 --> 00:21:00.669 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I feel like I need to to 158 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:10.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): grab my yoga sutures book and just look for a few tech like I'd like to be able to back up my answer to you with source text. 159 00:21:10.780 --> 00:21:15.329 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But I would say yes, right like the movements. 160 00:21:16.570 --> 00:21:24.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and there was always various forms of practice. But a lot of it wasn't written down until much later. 161 00:21:24.560 --> 00:21:37.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There are many different sort of supports, right for the distractions of the mind that are given from mantra to Mudra to focusing on the sound of Om. I think it's suture 1.17 or 2.17 that talks about 162 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:43.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): focus on whatever brings your mind peace right like whatever brings you to peace. 163 00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:45.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 164 00:21:45.070 --> 00:21:51.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then we we don't have record until, like the 12th century, so much later of 165 00:21:51.750 --> 00:22:10.309 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's like 17 Asana that are in in that in those texts. That have the Yoga Yoga Pride, and including seated like Sukasana, including Peacock and a few other a few other shapes that really clearly were described 166 00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:12.730 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to be there to support 167 00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:18.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): again, like Yoga to Virginia Roda, to support the fluctuation of the mind. 168 00:22:18.590 --> 00:22:21.220 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So at very least 169 00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:31.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't know how many years ago would that be if it's like the somewhere between the 12th and the 15th century? I guess it's like a thousand, maybe a thousand 500, almost years ago. 170 00:22:31.810 --> 00:22:40.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we know for sure. Yes, there was it being used in the same way in ancient times. We we don't know for sure. 171 00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:42.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): However. 172 00:22:43.710 --> 00:22:49.620 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's the Posh Patty seal right where we see someone seated. There's other 173 00:22:50.587 --> 00:22:55.769 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's even like inscriptions that show different shapes 174 00:22:56.330 --> 00:23:07.359 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that could be Yoga postures. Right? So so it's hard to honestly, definitively say, you know, absolutely yes. Could we be reading into it? 175 00:23:07.380 --> 00:23:25.410 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sure. And then there's just what I think right. So I'll give you all that proviso, because ultimately, whenever you ask me these kinds of questions, I love to say, Well, you gather the evidence and then decide for yourself right? Because it shouldn't be like Susanna Barky told me so. It's not helpful. Actually. 176 00:23:26.760 --> 00:23:28.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): my 177 00:23:28.510 --> 00:23:30.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): recollection 178 00:23:30.690 --> 00:23:34.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of, for example, being in like 179 00:23:34.790 --> 00:23:47.109 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in Varanasi, or in both Gaia and going to sacred sites? Is there be practitioners of all different backgrounds? Right? So sick? Jain Buddhist. 180 00:23:47.290 --> 00:23:48.610 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know Hindu. 181 00:23:48.950 --> 00:23:57.219 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and they are doing physical practices. Often some version or some form of a prostration meaning touching the earth 182 00:23:57.370 --> 00:23:59.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in those sacred sites. 183 00:23:59.560 --> 00:24:03.259 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and the way that it looks and feels to me 184 00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:04.899 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is like this 185 00:24:05.070 --> 00:24:06.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ancient movement 186 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:13.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): connecting to the earth in both surrender devotion. 187 00:24:13.590 --> 00:24:25.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, connecting to something greater than themselves. And so my feeling when I'm there or not all the time, but at times when I'm practicing sun salutations, for example. 188 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:27.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is it? This is a 189 00:24:27.280 --> 00:24:29.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): physical gesture 190 00:24:29.310 --> 00:24:30.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of 191 00:24:30.710 --> 00:24:32.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like little 192 00:24:32.370 --> 00:24:34.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): self connecting to big self. 193 00:24:35.260 --> 00:24:39.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that it is definitely something that's been happening for a long time. 194 00:24:40.180 --> 00:24:43.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and when I do it myself 195 00:24:43.890 --> 00:24:52.981 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it does help my mind settle it does help me, then move into seated meditation and and calming. So I would say, that's my 196 00:24:53.380 --> 00:24:57.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): non answer. Answer. What do you think, bonnie? 197 00:24:58.540 --> 00:25:15.730 Bonnie W (she/they): That's like a much better non answer than I've ever gotten before. So thank you. And I appreciate the encouragement to answer myself. I think I just needed a nudge in the right direction. Because it's been, it's always proffered is like, Oh, whereas and I came from. But then there's very little. 198 00:25:15.820 --> 00:25:26.030 Bonnie W (she/they): Yeah, reference to how one might go about discovering that and as yet I haven't had a chance to travel anywhere to see. You know. 199 00:25:27.070 --> 00:25:32.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. And I think we can feel it right, like you can feel it in your own practice. 200 00:25:33.470 --> 00:25:43.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Does it help you when you move in a mindful way in a way that is a gesture of surrender. That's full body, Mudra. Does it help you 201 00:25:43.970 --> 00:25:45.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): support the calming of your mind? 202 00:25:46.600 --> 00:25:47.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 203 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:49.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, just like. 204 00:25:50.040 --> 00:26:02.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I also want to broaden this out from Yoga right? Like, I. I believe prostrations have been done in most cultures, right? Like all cultures, some way of offering devotion like when I think of like 205 00:26:03.120 --> 00:26:03.840 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like 206 00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:08.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): early Celtic or pagan practice, so much connection to the earth 207 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.769 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in Africa as well right in the Americas. And so 208 00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:14.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): these are universal 209 00:26:15.560 --> 00:26:21.784 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to what it is to be human, like walking like dancing, like singing right like sound. And so 210 00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:25.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with Yoga. 211 00:26:26.020 --> 00:26:40.939 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sometimes for me it's more about that felt sense than it is about. Can we find source text because so much of it has been lost right? So much of those texts are gone. There's much we don't know. And so it's more about 212 00:26:41.130 --> 00:26:48.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the finding the feeling, and finding the connection for myself in in those moments which 213 00:26:48.730 --> 00:27:04.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to me is a way of honoring yoga right? But it's but I'll always be clear like there's no actual textual evidence of postural yoga past the Hatha Yoga, you know, not really So 214 00:27:05.210 --> 00:27:06.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in terms of 215 00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:08.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Western 216 00:27:09.130 --> 00:27:10.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): modes of 217 00:27:10.760 --> 00:27:34.902 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): verification. But if you were to ask most folks, you know, in India, right? Like or yoga practices, they're gonna say, oh, yes, yes. Our ancestors have been doing this for thousands of years, and they're not gonna say 2,500. They're gonna say 10,000, you know, back with Shiva, the Adi Yogi, you know. And so it does. It brings us back to that like, what frame are we looking from? And 218 00:27:35.600 --> 00:27:41.169 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then, ultimately, that question for me brings us back again to like our own direct experience. 219 00:27:41.490 --> 00:27:54.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. And so I think you like, I use that cue. I say, I say it all the time. You know, early Yoga practitioners use these shapes to help them get their meditation. 220 00:27:54.530 --> 00:27:56.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But I think 221 00:27:57.180 --> 00:28:00.229 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'll add, because you're helping me be aware of this like. 222 00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:03.949 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but we don't always have evidence of that 223 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:18.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe you can explore and see how it feels for you. Right? So it invites people into the into the inquiry. I I don't know if I would talk about evidence. Honestly, it depends on the context. If it's more of a workshop versus a a 1-off class. 224 00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:20.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, yeah. 225 00:28:22.955 --> 00:28:24.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Wonderful. 226 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:26.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Okay. 227 00:28:26.810 --> 00:28:31.019 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Justine. I'm seeing if you're here. Not yet. 228 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:32.800 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Okay. 229 00:28:34.650 --> 00:28:38.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I love your question hopefully. You'll listen to the recording. 230 00:28:40.840 --> 00:28:49.710 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We have one more question after this. So just if you have other things that have come up, or just ways you want to think about Yoga and your your practice will come to just 231 00:28:50.010 --> 00:28:51.840 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of emergence questions. 232 00:28:52.290 --> 00:29:08.359 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So, Justine, I realize, as I continue with this course, I know what I would like my next step to be, instead of being a solo yoga facilitator at this time. I would like to work in a hybrid capacity in person and online in a collective, while I haven't made any big moves recently, I also want to acknowledge 233 00:29:08.360 --> 00:29:27.059 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that while I want to focus on this in the next chapter and in an accessible setting, I'm focused specifically on the following issues, women's reproductive rights and healthcare, along with Lgbtqia rights and healthcare healthcare for all in our current climate crisis, preserving our current democracy. And the list goes on 234 00:29:27.571 --> 00:29:37.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): feel you, I just wanna say, I feel you. I think, yeah, I would like to be part of a saga that supports these issues, too. 235 00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:56.169 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, I know activism isn't always separate. But how do we balance this and be an effective communicator within our class setting to be transparent about my current concerns as it pertains to us, keeping it to ourselves. Thank you. I love that question. 236 00:29:56.620 --> 00:29:58.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm! 237 00:29:58.560 --> 00:29:59.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I mean. 238 00:30:02.470 --> 00:30:05.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I have so many thoughts on this one is. 239 00:30:05.660 --> 00:30:26.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, Bonnie says I need to get a hold of Justine. So connect right like connect with folks and create, like the virtual community where maybe it's a collaborative series. Maybe it's a workshop series. Maybe there's some online and some in person. One of the ways that I've raised awareness for issues. When I want to be a little. 240 00:30:26.540 --> 00:30:51.681 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't know the nicest way, like almost like precious about it where I'm like, I don't wanna turn people off too much. But I wanna bring in issues. It's all connected to a fundraiser, right? So I did like when I moved to Orlando. And I was new. Donate a portion of the proceeds to a local center that supported women's rights. And then, as we got closer to the elections, we did a Yoga votes 241 00:30:52.060 --> 00:30:56.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): class. And then phone banked after the class. Right? So it was like 242 00:30:56.660 --> 00:31:11.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): partnering. And and you'll hear me say this again and again. Folks who've been here for a while, but partnering with local organizations because they're happy to have someone essentially do work on their behalf right? And bring people in. 243 00:31:11.450 --> 00:31:34.549 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then you get people from their community. So it's like an like, you don't have to have the stress of marketing and doing that all on your own. You can partner with someone else, and you get people interested in those things. I don't think you have to separate them. I don't think you have to separate the your things you care about, and yoga but 244 00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:37.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): having it be like 245 00:31:37.490 --> 00:31:49.339 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): service, oriented or fundraiser oriented, it doesn't have to be the whole thing right? Like we need to make money, too. So it can be like, 10 goes to that organization, or whatever. 246 00:31:49.550 --> 00:32:16.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think there's a lot of people concerned about women's reproductive rights and healthcare and Lgbtqia rights and healthcare and healthcare for all. And our current democracy. So what's cool, Justine? And anyone else thinking of. This is like when you kind of make that the focus you call people who care about the things you care about, and those are the people you want in your space, anyway. Right? And so for me in these, when I did them, I would basically do like 247 00:32:17.310 --> 00:32:37.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): depending on the time like a 2 to 3 h, sometimes 2 and a half hour. Kind of experience. Where you come in we practice. Maybe there's a little education or something, and then there's like a sharing time or an action time, right? And so, or just like a bit more informal, like social hour afterwards. So it's building community. 248 00:32:37.850 --> 00:32:42.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we can do that in person and online. I think the way I would do that 249 00:32:43.780 --> 00:32:49.489 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): haven't done it as much. Actually, it's not true. I have, like Reggie and I did something together, Reggie. 250 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:59.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hubbard, and we would do breakout rooms so that way you could. People can socialize with one another on their particular topics. But any thoughts folks 251 00:33:00.030 --> 00:33:00.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on this. 252 00:33:08.950 --> 00:33:19.193 Bonnie W (she/they): Yeah, that all sounds great. I I know how to get a hold of Justine outside of this. So if anybody else wants to connect with her and me. I'll I'll put my info in the 253 00:33:19.490 --> 00:33:20.284 Bonnie W (she/they): chat. 254 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:22.839 Bonnie W (she/they): cause. Yeah, I've I've 255 00:33:23.370 --> 00:33:40.073 Bonnie W (she/they): I've been kicked out of so many local groups. And really, really, for really trite reasons, like my name is Bonnie, and the other Bonnie didn't like there being 2 bonnies, and anybody named Jennifer or Mike is just like what? What? 256 00:33:41.010 --> 00:33:42.190 Bonnie W (she/they): So 257 00:33:42.270 --> 00:33:43.790 Bonnie W (she/they): I just feel like. 258 00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:52.740 Bonnie W (she/they): yeah, using yoga as the framework. I've been so much more successful like reaching out to the community making connections 259 00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:59.330 Bonnie W (she/they): and and then organizing for social justice. So in I live in such a small town. 260 00:33:59.990 --> 00:34:13.510 Bonnie W (she/they): I would like to do more online to create more connection, because it's so, it's so small and insular here. It's I. I didn't know Hood River was as wealthy as it was. I always thought of it for outdoor sports. 261 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:31.209 Bonnie W (she/they): but then, when I moved here, it was like, Oh, my gosh, we're we're the poor people like, I'm used to being right in the middle of the pack. And here, like, yeah, like, so it's also hard for me, because I 262 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:33.950 Bonnie W (she/they): I'm dealing with all of this like 263 00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:39.149 Bonnie W (she/they): really privileged people and the limousine Liberals. And wow! It's it's 264 00:34:39.610 --> 00:34:44.120 Bonnie W (she/they): they're very settled, and they're very happy with being liberal, you know. 265 00:34:44.150 --> 00:34:48.429 Bonnie W (she/they): for lack of a better term limousine Liberals and I just it's hard to. 266 00:34:48.969 --> 00:34:52.889 Bonnie W (she/they): I don't know. Have a real conversation, so. 267 00:34:53.489 --> 00:34:54.299 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 268 00:34:55.069 --> 00:35:05.779 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, it's tricky to find our people right. And in all environments. And you know, sometimes like just bringing back silence too. It's like 269 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:16.459 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): honestly in some of the spaces that I've been in. I didn't really want. It sounds terrible when I say it out loud. I didn't necessarily wanna hear out. 270 00:35:16.569 --> 00:35:37.109 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I wanted to just come together, offer the practice right, maybe a little teaching, or have someone else offer practice and teaching, and then let the silence percolate, and so they can kind of come to their own conclusions. Without having to have all the complexity of that privilege get shared, you know. So 271 00:35:37.229 --> 00:35:58.599 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's so many ways to do it. And and connecting online is really helpful. Especially to there as well. If you can partner with an organization or organizations like. Recently I did one with sovereign la that was a fundraiser. And what was cool about that for sovereign actually, it wasn't for sovereign. It was for Heel Palestine, and 272 00:35:59.839 --> 00:36:15.069 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because we connected, and that was in person. But we were planning an online one. It also went out to their whole email list. Right? So most of the people who came I don't even know. And they didn't know me. You know. They had no idea who I was, which was so 273 00:36:15.309 --> 00:36:25.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cool because it was like a new community getting to practice yoga for a cause that they believed in, you know. So you can, partner 274 00:36:25.339 --> 00:36:27.759 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in person and online. Yeah. 275 00:36:27.909 --> 00:36:28.849 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you. 276 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:36.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then Don asked a question about head stand and crown tacra Don. 277 00:36:36.339 --> 00:36:38.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you listen to this. 278 00:36:38.979 --> 00:36:44.859 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't have enough information about your question, but I'm because 279 00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:48.019 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But 280 00:36:49.889 --> 00:36:50.959 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): think 281 00:36:55.659 --> 00:36:58.719 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because it just said Headstand and crown Chakra, so 282 00:36:59.409 --> 00:37:02.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Chakras are energetic 283 00:37:03.419 --> 00:37:04.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): centers 284 00:37:04.849 --> 00:37:09.052 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): near nerve plexi or nerve plexuses. Right the plural 285 00:37:09.739 --> 00:37:19.869 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): where our nerves come together, and there are different nerve plexi in our bodies connected to our tractors physically, but a Chakra is an energetic and metaphorical description. 286 00:37:20.109 --> 00:37:22.859 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's not something where, like if you 287 00:37:22.969 --> 00:37:26.889 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): where to go and look, you know, you can't actually see a Chakra. So 288 00:37:27.429 --> 00:37:31.299 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when we move or practice in a certain way, like if you put 289 00:37:31.389 --> 00:37:37.519 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): fingers on very lightly on your brow, and massage your between your eyebrows, or 290 00:37:37.779 --> 00:37:44.249 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and take your hands, and you massage at the occipital bone at the base of your 291 00:37:44.279 --> 00:37:45.459 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): skull. 292 00:37:45.649 --> 00:37:48.119 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That does help 293 00:37:48.869 --> 00:37:52.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with the 3rd Ayakra with 294 00:37:52.789 --> 00:37:53.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with 295 00:37:54.169 --> 00:37:55.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Agnia Chakra. 296 00:37:56.439 --> 00:37:58.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): which is at the center 297 00:37:58.379 --> 00:38:13.709 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of the brain. So kind of between that point and that point, if you can imagine, like between the 2 hemispheres of your brain, and then the crown Chakra is described as being definitely yes, at the top, and you can kind of tap the top of your head just lightly. 298 00:38:14.653 --> 00:38:22.319 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But also above right. So like a few inches or out, it's like the the checker that moves into the 299 00:38:23.169 --> 00:38:27.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): into the interconnectedness between us and everything else. 300 00:38:27.819 --> 00:38:32.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so yes, doing something like headstand can 301 00:38:33.109 --> 00:38:37.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): activate or stimulate this this Chakra 302 00:38:39.029 --> 00:38:47.059 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): perhaps that is your question. But if you have more, you can give me more information, and and I can give you a different answer. 303 00:38:48.349 --> 00:39:07.159 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just opening up if anyone, especially anyone who hasn't shared yet has anything on their heart or mind, or just anything they want to bring forward their experience, practicing or teaching Yoga, or want a Yoga perspective on. And you can let us know like, do you want to just share? Do you want input 304 00:39:08.249 --> 00:39:09.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): opening the space? 305 00:39:21.189 --> 00:39:22.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hi, that's so good. 306 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:23.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You. 307 00:39:24.180 --> 00:39:30.796 Beth Nelson (she, hers): You as well. So hi everyone. My name is Beth and Bonnie, I think. 308 00:39:31.310 --> 00:39:36.753 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I'm assuming you live in Oregon. Is that right? Yeah, I just moved to Oregon about 6 weeks ago. 309 00:39:37.874 --> 00:39:41.869 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I'm in Southern Oregon, in the Rogue Valley and 310 00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:56.420 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I've been spending a lot of time at home mainly cause it's stinking hot. And also, you know, I I haven't found community so much yet. I I am doing, you know. 311 00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.096 Beth Nelson (she, hers): making the rounds of 312 00:40:00.050 --> 00:40:04.019 Beth Nelson (she, hers): new student in, you know, trying to find a home. 313 00:40:04.529 --> 00:40:11.410 Beth Nelson (she, hers): And I don't know if there's really a question around this. But I I've just noticed that over the last week or so. 314 00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:15.259 Beth Nelson (she, hers): honestly since the July 1st 315 00:40:16.690 --> 00:40:18.790 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Supreme Court decision that 316 00:40:19.590 --> 00:40:22.150 Beth Nelson (she, hers): really shifts the way that 317 00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:26.589 Beth Nelson (she, hers): President's immunity will be 318 00:40:28.230 --> 00:40:31.110 Beth Nelson (she, hers): handled, moving forward, leaving it at that. 319 00:40:33.600 --> 00:40:34.270 Beth Nelson (she, hers): it! 320 00:40:34.680 --> 00:40:39.009 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I'm I'm craving connection and 321 00:40:39.970 --> 00:40:42.329 Beth Nelson (she, hers): and a practice. And yet when I 322 00:40:42.590 --> 00:40:45.440 Beth Nelson (she, hers): and practicing alone, it's 323 00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:48.300 Beth Nelson (she, hers): it's not. 324 00:40:49.540 --> 00:40:52.729 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I don't want to say it's not working, but what I'm finding is 325 00:40:53.000 --> 00:41:01.690 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I've been teaching for 10 years that I'm running the script in my head as if I'm teaching a class rather than dropping into the actual practice. 326 00:41:02.633 --> 00:41:08.810 Beth Nelson (she, hers): So again, I don't know if there's a question around this. I I think I'm just looking for 327 00:41:09.570 --> 00:41:11.730 Beth Nelson (she, hers): connection, and 328 00:41:11.930 --> 00:41:20.859 Beth Nelson (she, hers): it was really relevant to me that a lot of what has been spoken about is, you know how to really bring Yoga in a way that 329 00:41:20.930 --> 00:41:27.170 Beth Nelson (she, hers): speaks to our values of liberation and social justice. So I appreciate being heard, and if there's any 330 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.199 Beth Nelson (she, hers): anything that showed up, I would 331 00:41:30.370 --> 00:41:31.949 Beth Nelson (she, hers): be honored to receive it. 332 00:41:43.340 --> 00:41:51.170 Carly Joelle: I appreciate you sharing that, Beth. I I've also noticed, like the teacher voice not shutting off whenever I'm 333 00:41:51.530 --> 00:42:08.959 Carly Joelle: even just trying to practice by myself. And so I've started just returning to my teacher's videos watching Susanna's classes and some other videos that we have right. Sometimes we just need community for it. Yeah, just to keep refilling the cup. 334 00:42:09.140 --> 00:42:13.150 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Thank you so much for that reminder. It's like, Hello, it's right in front of me. 335 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:13.990 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Yeah. 336 00:42:13.990 --> 00:42:15.477 Carly Joelle: It takes a village. 337 00:42:21.570 --> 00:42:31.299 Caroline (they/she): I can also really relate. I find that even if I'm practicing following somebody else's video, then my mind is thinking about how I can use that. And will I remember that. And you know. 338 00:42:31.640 --> 00:42:33.020 Caroline (they/she): So yeah, 339 00:42:33.720 --> 00:42:35.500 Caroline (they/she): so the things for me 340 00:42:35.790 --> 00:42:45.390 Caroline (they/she): other sometimes it's like the other practices like my month for practice. That is what really helps me land and kind of quieten my mind. 341 00:42:46.357 --> 00:42:47.910 Caroline (they/she): And then just 342 00:42:49.030 --> 00:42:55.250 Caroline (they/she): accepting. There's just a little bit of like. Oh, I've become aware that I'm narrating, or whatever. 343 00:42:56.105 --> 00:42:56.420 Beth Nelson (she, hers): It! 344 00:42:56.420 --> 00:43:01.240 Caroline (they/she): It's kind of like, yeah, I find that I almost need to do something that I'm not sharing as a practice. 345 00:43:01.550 --> 00:43:01.970 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Yes. 346 00:43:01.970 --> 00:43:03.870 Caroline (they/she): To to be in my own space. 347 00:43:05.370 --> 00:43:06.330 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Thank you. 348 00:43:08.580 --> 00:43:16.029 dana (she/her): Beth. I I grew up in in Southern Oregon, actually in the Rover Valley. I grew up in Grants Pass. 349 00:43:16.030 --> 00:43:18.180 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Yeah, that's I live south of Grass Pass. 350 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.140 dana (she/her): Yeah. And it's 351 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:22.350 dana (she/her): I 352 00:43:24.720 --> 00:43:28.762 dana (she/her): thanks and unique, sociopolitical place. So 353 00:43:30.630 --> 00:43:32.870 dana (she/her): I still obsess about 354 00:43:33.570 --> 00:43:36.490 dana (she/her): that environment and how 355 00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:39.629 dana (she/her): how it's it's 356 00:43:40.121 --> 00:43:55.889 dana (she/her): yeah, there's a lot of things. There's another Supreme Court decision that just took place center there. And one of my close friends that I went to high school with is the mayor. So she it. That's it was a very. It's very polarizing. It was for folks who don't know is Grant Pass versus Johnson. 357 00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:00.459 dana (she/her): and it determined it. It basically, the decision made it 358 00:44:01.160 --> 00:44:06.829 dana (she/her): criminal. This is my interpretation made it criminal to be an unhoused person in a public space. 359 00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:16.170 dana (she/her): and gave license for municipalities to incarcerate people who are are in public spaces who are unhoused. 360 00:44:16.490 --> 00:44:19.330 dana (she/her): So there, I mean, I think that it goes to 361 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:20.550 dana (she/her): it's 362 00:44:23.560 --> 00:44:24.570 dana (she/her): It's 363 00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.270 dana (she/her): it's something that I think about all the time. 364 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.339 dana (she/her): All the time is just this. 365 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:46.751 dana (she/her): That's where I'm from. Is this place where it has such a history of profound violence and revisionist history. And that's where we are as a nation. And it's also really gorgeous, beautiful place and 366 00:44:47.710 --> 00:44:58.609 dana (she/her): in terms of thinking of how I can share the Yoga practice as as a practice of embodied spirituality that has indigenous roots to be from a place 367 00:44:58.780 --> 00:45:07.599 dana (she/her): where there was a trail of tears in oak flats, which is 30 miles away from where I grew up 30 min away as crow flies. 368 00:45:07.690 --> 00:45:21.519 dana (she/her): and that's there are. There's not an indigenous presence within the Rogue River Valley, because it was so extraordinarily violent, and there was language about extermination, and 369 00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:30.540 dana (she/her): the genocide was so profound with very little, so it just feels very raw for me. I'm kind of. I am noticing that I'm 370 00:45:30.750 --> 00:45:32.450 dana (she/her): very tangential here. 371 00:45:32.680 --> 00:45:37.759 dana (she/her): and I haven't I'm really grateful for this community. 372 00:45:38.723 --> 00:45:42.830 dana (she/her): And this facilitation of this Susanna, because 373 00:45:44.970 --> 00:45:52.110 dana (she/her): after getting my Yoga teacher training credential, I haven't taught because it has been difficult to find 374 00:45:53.770 --> 00:45:55.580 dana (she/her): a way to ethically do so 375 00:45:56.950 --> 00:45:57.880 dana (she/her): aye. 376 00:45:58.030 --> 00:46:03.879 dana (she/her): and and really acknowledge the indigenous roots of the embodied practice and the political nature that. 377 00:46:04.790 --> 00:46:08.010 dana (she/her): and sharing that, regardless 378 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:16.980 dana (she/her): of whether or not it resonates for people, but just having that disclaimer. This is my practice. This is how I'm sharing from whether it resonates for you. I hope it does. But if it doesn't. 379 00:46:17.010 --> 00:46:24.440 dana (she/her): there you go like I'm just having all the all, you know, all the things prepared. So I'm really grateful for this, because I haven't. 380 00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:32.120 dana (she/her): It's been hard to find that community that doesn't just actually can perpetuate the revisionist history within love and light. 381 00:46:32.310 --> 00:46:33.960 dana (she/her): which isn't what I'm trying to do. 382 00:46:35.580 --> 00:46:37.039 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Oh, thank you, Dana! 383 00:46:37.720 --> 00:46:41.489 dana (she/her): Thank you. Thanks that I really needed that. I'm like, Oh, Grace, that's. 384 00:46:42.202 --> 00:46:43.890 Beth Nelson (she, hers): I can even remember. 385 00:46:43.890 --> 00:46:54.099 dana (she/her): Like if somebody asked me. I'm like, I'm like I'm just from Grants Pass, Oregon. Actually, my dad is from Northern Idaho, so I won't ever be able to stop learning about 386 00:46:54.570 --> 00:46:57.420 dana (she/her): about what's going on in the world. 387 00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:01.680 dana (she/her): That's. 388 00:47:07.130 --> 00:47:09.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you all for this, and 389 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.859 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, Dana, sometimes, and Beth, sometimes what I'm 390 00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:15.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I feel of like. 391 00:47:16.020 --> 00:47:22.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's just the witnessing like sometimes there's nothing that we can do to solve 392 00:47:22.550 --> 00:47:24.519 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): right or make it better. 393 00:47:24.710 --> 00:47:27.019 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But we can witness 394 00:47:27.370 --> 00:47:29.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and name. 395 00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:32.319 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that 396 00:47:32.580 --> 00:47:34.219 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): has its own power. 397 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, wow! And Bonnie's there a lot, too. 398 00:47:43.660 --> 00:47:44.170 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm. 399 00:47:45.810 --> 00:47:46.200 Bonnie W (she/they): Yeah, I. 400 00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:46.800 dana (she/her): I was. 401 00:47:46.800 --> 00:48:12.540 Bonnie W (she/they): And rural organizing project for everybody, because they do a really good job of talking about that history of Southern Oregon, and most of the think tanks, that rural organizing projects work with their belief is that what happens in Oregon happens in the rest of the country, and especially those really kind of isolated, very militia, intense areas like Southern Oregon and Eastern Oregon. 402 00:48:12.922 --> 00:48:28.589 Bonnie W (she/they): That's really what they are focused on, and they were the only ones like when that whole occupation of the Mallure the Eastern Oregon Bird Sanctuary Rural Organizing project was the only ones who had, like even the remotest 403 00:48:28.610 --> 00:48:39.199 Bonnie W (she/they): answer that made sense, and you know, and it made me realize that my own Congressional representative was actually supporting the patriots the armed 404 00:48:39.693 --> 00:49:00.670 Bonnie W (she/they): take over and you couldn't really tell that from his language directly. But when you started reading between the lines and reading rural organizing projects, information, it became like, super clear. So yeah, I just would highly recommend them as a resource for Beth. And then everybody in the group, if you're ever having trouble, understanding like what's coming 405 00:49:00.700 --> 00:49:10.509 Bonnie W (she/they): cause. I'm not even sure it's right. I think it's it's just militia. So yeah, they just provide a really 406 00:49:10.850 --> 00:49:15.050 Bonnie W (she/they): easily accessible lens for interpreting all that. So. 407 00:49:15.560 --> 00:49:22.579 dana (she/her): Wow! Thank you so much, Bonnie, that's real. I had. I had no idea this is gonna be Oregon Happy Hour. 408 00:49:22.600 --> 00:49:23.800 dana (she/her): This is great. 409 00:49:24.900 --> 00:49:27.740 dana (she/her): and the happy hour or sad hour, whichever it is. 410 00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:40.029 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, thank you. And like some points of connection, right for 411 00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:42.659 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for folks, it's like that big, small world. 412 00:49:44.550 --> 00:49:49.659 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's really nice to be able to know, like there's resources. And there's organizations like 413 00:49:50.180 --> 00:49:55.075 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): connecting to orgs has been the biggest way that I've found. 414 00:49:56.690 --> 00:50:10.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): almost like political home, you know, or or service home like, save a home in new places, and I just saw a bulb, a billboard in cause, Santa Clarita, I will say where I moved. 415 00:50:10.710 --> 00:50:18.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There is not a lot of local organizations very conservative. Part of Los Angeles expanded Los Angeles County, and 416 00:50:18.380 --> 00:50:27.809 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's a billboard by, I think the org is called Unity. Now I'm going to have to research them. But it, quoted Nelson Mandela, and I'm paraphrasing something about the 417 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:33.239 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the liberty of all people. Isn't possible without the freedom of the Palestinians. 418 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.620 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I was like Whoa and my kiddo actually saw it was like. 419 00:50:37.690 --> 00:50:39.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Is that good, mom? 420 00:50:39.731 --> 00:50:46.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, that's amazing. That that's up there, you know, and it just helps me feel. 421 00:50:46.520 --> 00:50:57.750 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I haven't actually gotten out. You know, it's like the stuff. I tell you all, I also practice. Right? So a lot of my community is online. And then I have specific friends that I'll go and see. 422 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:25.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I'll go to their things. But it's in a different part of La than where I live. Right? It's in places where there's just a lot more access to some of the stuff. And so I am sort of close like 45 min away, an hour away. But where I live I haven't partnered with any orgs, but maybe there are some that I could, you know, and that would be a way for me to feel like I can connect and contribute in the actual land that I'm living on the place that I live not to mention, like connecting with the local 423 00:51:25.510 --> 00:51:33.289 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): tribes, like different endangered to Tabian and and the Chumash, you know, organizing councils out here. So those are all steps 424 00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:35.180 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or moves that 425 00:51:35.190 --> 00:51:38.320 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that I can do so. I just am appreciating 426 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:39.629 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this a lot. 427 00:51:39.730 --> 00:51:41.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Anyone else. 428 00:51:46.140 --> 00:51:49.170 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm, love senior puppy Carly. 429 00:51:50.350 --> 00:51:51.750 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, Caroline. 430 00:51:53.680 --> 00:52:08.379 Caroline (they/she): I just really wanted to say Thank you for this space. I'd ask the question last time. And kind of I did listen to the recording again, and also really see the I listen to the one before. 431 00:52:08.470 --> 00:52:11.629 Caroline (they/she): And I'd actually been at the one before. And 432 00:52:11.820 --> 00:52:12.880 Caroline (they/she): I think 433 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:19.909 Caroline (they/she): it's how like that real kind of thing of like when you're ready. The teacher's there like I I couldn't hear it last time. 434 00:52:20.380 --> 00:52:24.929 Caroline (they/she): so I just wanted to say just a deep thank you, really, for the whole community. And for this space. 435 00:52:32.090 --> 00:52:39.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And let me just ask, did you get a question? I mean sorry. Did you get what you needed in an answer to your question about sequencing. 436 00:52:41.410 --> 00:52:44.450 Caroline (they/she): Yeah, I think I did. I just felt a lot more. 437 00:52:45.140 --> 00:52:48.169 Caroline (they/she): I think, from listening to that one and the one before 438 00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:51.000 Caroline (they/she): I just got this such a sense of permission. 439 00:52:51.808 --> 00:52:54.519 Caroline (they/she): an invitation to be 440 00:52:55.100 --> 00:52:56.420 Caroline (they/she): following 441 00:52:57.140 --> 00:53:11.590 Caroline (they/she): like your intuition, and also to think creatively and actually, the session before you actually had done an arc. And I was like, Oh, that's the arc I'm talking about. I was there. I was actually at that session, but it hadn't. But it yeah, so 442 00:53:13.050 --> 00:53:17.819 Caroline (they/she): so yeah, it was and I'll probably listen to it again. That was really affirming. 443 00:53:18.310 --> 00:53:19.260 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 444 00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:21.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm so glad 445 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:26.709 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because it's true. You know, this is goes back to what Carly and some other folks were sharing about. 446 00:53:27.110 --> 00:53:28.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm! 447 00:53:28.770 --> 00:53:29.840 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Having 448 00:53:29.890 --> 00:53:31.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): having that teacher voice. 449 00:53:32.310 --> 00:53:37.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or like, you know how many times I think I've told you I keep it. 450 00:53:37.900 --> 00:53:59.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's still here. It's it's like so old. And basically, my, this is not it. But like my sequence on my pay, on my post, it right? And like being out there teaching at the Park. And it's like, Yeah, that's great. And that was helpful for me at the time. And I needed it. But it's okay, like it's okay to just 451 00:53:59.990 --> 00:54:06.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): now. What I do is cause I go out and I teach. Beth has experienced this in person where I'll teach 452 00:54:06.260 --> 00:54:07.660 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a class 453 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:13.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in person that I've scripted out right like the Yoga class curator 454 00:54:13.770 --> 00:54:29.129 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): classes that you have. Right? So the way, now that I do it is, I'll go over and I'll practice that class in the morning that I'm gonna teach it. You know that after whenever I'm gonna teach it, even if it's like, if I'm teaching it at 7 am. I'll practice it at 5, 30, or whatever in the morning myself. 455 00:54:29.140 --> 00:54:37.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sometimes I'll actually listen to my own recording, because I need my previous self to help me get to that embodiment 456 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.610 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): right like. And sometimes 457 00:54:40.060 --> 00:54:42.789 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I can just look at the write up. 458 00:54:42.910 --> 00:54:44.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I can take myself there 459 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:52.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that I judge how much support I need, and where I'm at, and then I go into the teaching moment 460 00:54:53.010 --> 00:55:03.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): from the trust of my ability to embody right and and less attach now to the you know the script. But 461 00:55:04.210 --> 00:55:05.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that's not. 462 00:55:05.610 --> 00:55:12.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know I share. That is my process. I think everyone has their own process. And so it is, whatever gets us to that trust 463 00:55:12.850 --> 00:55:21.295 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of ourselves in the moment to to sharing. And so your process might look completely different. And that's wonderful. 464 00:55:22.540 --> 00:55:37.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, but the giving myself time and space to embody before I teach whatever that looks like. And sometimes it's not even practicing Asana. It's just a meditation or a ritual, you know, or mantra, or whatever it is 465 00:55:37.620 --> 00:55:40.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that really helps me drop in in the moment. 466 00:55:41.500 --> 00:55:42.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 467 00:55:45.250 --> 00:55:46.319 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you. 468 00:55:46.620 --> 00:55:56.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you. Everyone. I wanna just invite us to. If there's anything you're taking away to drop that in the chat or anchor it for yourself in your journal. 469 00:55:56.520 --> 00:55:58.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's so many pieces. 470 00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so many things I'm taking away. But I think 471 00:56:01.390 --> 00:56:04.539 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think the biggest is like community 472 00:56:04.660 --> 00:56:07.119 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): love, love and community 473 00:56:07.560 --> 00:56:08.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me. 474 00:56:08.820 --> 00:56:10.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 475 00:56:13.350 --> 00:56:16.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. Connection, learning. 476 00:56:17.290 --> 00:56:18.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Silence 477 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): all of the things so invitation to stretch 478 00:56:23.730 --> 00:56:27.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and to anchor that in when you're ready 479 00:56:28.410 --> 00:56:33.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we can unmute and say goodbye, and I'll see you all in a couple weeks. 480 00:56:37.130 --> 00:56:38.160 Caroline (they/she): Thank you. Bye. 481 00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:38.750 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Thank you. 482 00:56:38.750 --> 00:56:39.550 Caroline (they/she): Everybody. 483 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:40.670 Carly Joelle: Think he's fine. 484 00:56:40.670 --> 00:56:41.730 Beth Nelson (she, hers): Yeah. Thanks. Mike.