WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.790 --> 00:00:05.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So welcome to our spring 2 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:12.067 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): pilgrimage and puja for yoga class curator. I'm really overjoyed to get to spend this time together. 3 00:00:12.830 --> 00:00:24.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I wanted to just begin in a moment with a practice. But before we do a practice, an invitation to share in the chat. 4 00:00:25.580 --> 00:00:34.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): have there been any new seats like new things awakening, I know for many of us there may be challenges, too. 5 00:00:34.700 --> 00:00:46.769 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and perhaps we can explore those challenges and see if there's any newness or any new seeds coming from within the challenge. If it's feeling like a a full and challenging time. 6 00:00:47.390 --> 00:00:49.429 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I know for myself 7 00:00:49.620 --> 00:00:58.153 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): some of the seeds that are spreading are like new connections that I've made recently, and with working on Yokoga 8 00:00:59.340 --> 00:01:13.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That's been feeling very like like a budding seed. And so invitation if anyone would like to share and chat or out loud. And just as we're kind of like coming in to Orient towards that 9 00:01:14.020 --> 00:01:15.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): reflection on 10 00:01:16.882 --> 00:01:27.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on the new start, and for some of us it might be helpful or supportive to take a mudra with all of your fingers and your thumb 11 00:01:27.290 --> 00:01:28.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): brought together. 12 00:01:28.940 --> 00:01:33.489 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just taking this madrat of the roots 13 00:01:33.770 --> 00:01:35.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): moving into the chute 14 00:01:36.230 --> 00:01:37.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the seed. 15 00:01:38.780 --> 00:01:41.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and reflect for a moment 16 00:01:42.630 --> 00:01:44.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what are the seeds that are 17 00:01:44.780 --> 00:01:49.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): are emerging that are sprouting in my life? Where is there 18 00:01:49.330 --> 00:01:51.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): color or 19 00:01:53.140 --> 00:01:56.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): technicolor joy? Whereas their vividness. 20 00:01:56.520 --> 00:01:57.730 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and where 21 00:01:58.080 --> 00:02:01.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): might there still be like time for things to be more 22 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.050 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): fallow or more restful 23 00:02:04.230 --> 00:02:05.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): were 24 00:02:05.690 --> 00:02:14.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe those places where things are like in full bloom, right in in the flower, in the lotus. So just taking taking a moment 25 00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:16.839 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to reflect 26 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): before we do a practice 27 00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:47.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I wanted to just invite you all to share. If you would like anything about the seeds, anything about what's budding in your life right now, anywhere, there's new color, new life. In the chat, or if anyone would like to share out loud. 28 00:03:09.590 --> 00:03:13.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm! Funny finishing up a a course 29 00:03:14.340 --> 00:03:24.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on regenerative economics. So lots of new seeds there also, still building, reopening, combining Nova and social justice with grant writing and web development. Phew! Yeah. 30 00:03:24.770 --> 00:03:26.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that's powerful. 31 00:03:28.220 --> 00:03:31.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Justine. I signed up for Instagram. 32 00:03:32.706 --> 00:03:35.604 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): How's that going? 33 00:03:37.070 --> 00:03:42.279 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Express congratulations and condolences? Good luck out there. Yeah. 34 00:03:42.730 --> 00:03:47.102 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I've been less on it lately, and it's been good. 35 00:03:48.278 --> 00:03:54.549 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm excited for a new social social space that just yoga like to hang out there when 36 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.187 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with the outcomes. 37 00:03:56.850 --> 00:03:58.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I feel like. 38 00:03:58.750 --> 00:04:07.309 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, sometimes so like what's budding is also what's dying like, what's letting go? And I I will say that theme 39 00:04:07.410 --> 00:04:10.779 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): has been more strong for me recently, like. 40 00:04:11.070 --> 00:04:18.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): while there's these new shoots, there's also a lot of like letting go, or almost like pruning. I'm growing 41 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:20.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): these 42 00:04:20.670 --> 00:04:30.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): vegetables from seeds. So spinach, which I've never been able to successfully grow. It's actually shooting. And Arugula and one of the things I notice 43 00:04:30.780 --> 00:04:34.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's so abundant. It's just a very small indoor. 44 00:04:34.570 --> 00:04:41.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't even know what you call it. Y'all like a gardener person. That's like a small indoor thing of seeds. 45 00:04:41.980 --> 00:05:00.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and there's actually so many that some of them need to be pruned, and I know that they need to be pruned, and it it feels weird to pull them up from the root, but I know that that's necessary for the rest to survive and and to grow. And then the beautiful thing is also 46 00:05:00.850 --> 00:05:27.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like I get to eat them as I, you know. So it's like that cycle of nourishment, this, these little seeds, and so part of that new beginning can sometimes be in a place. Of what are you pruning? What are you calling? What are you letting go? Or and all? Honestly also, sometimes we don't have a choice like things are going away from us, or taken away, or dying away. And there we are, you know, with with what we have 47 00:05:27.860 --> 00:05:37.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): looking at your growing. My Yoga community which is huge for me as one of the very few less than 3 black Yoga teachers in Vancouver 48 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): move I 49 00:05:41.370 --> 00:05:46.209 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that really needs to change. And I was so glad you're growing your community 50 00:05:46.550 --> 00:05:48.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): delicious. Yeah. 51 00:05:51.780 --> 00:06:06.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm definitely more in a season of internal winter, dying back right now. I know the seeds will come eventually. Yeah, just being in that place of when it's that kind of downturn or internal turn. Trusting and not 52 00:06:07.030 --> 00:06:11.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I. I say this also to remind myself like not needing to force 53 00:06:11.340 --> 00:06:19.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the spring when it's not, you know. Maybe spring where you are. But internally it's not that time, and that's okay. 54 00:06:20.190 --> 00:06:23.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Would anyone likes to share out loud 55 00:06:30.620 --> 00:06:34.525 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): drinking little seats is hard for me, too. I end up trying to pot them all 56 00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:36.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah 57 00:06:40.780 --> 00:06:42.602 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 100%. Yes. 58 00:06:44.970 --> 00:06:54.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I've been learning, too, about, you know, in Clarissa Pinkle, Esther's book, Women who run with the Wolves, which has been one of those like formative works that I've read through the years 59 00:06:55.550 --> 00:06:59.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): she talks about Petit more like a little death. And 60 00:07:00.070 --> 00:07:10.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there are all these little deaths. I've brought this up so some of you might remember me talking about this before, but the the little death of the paths we don't take, or the things that don't happen. Like. 61 00:07:10.940 --> 00:07:14.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, I'm really not this person, but 62 00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:26.599 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): now in this life, in this timeline. But there's another timeline where I was like a dancer right in some way, like a professional dancer, and I have to mourn that like. That's not this timeline. 63 00:07:26.640 --> 00:07:30.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so there may be, as things 64 00:07:30.700 --> 00:07:31.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as things 65 00:07:32.270 --> 00:07:36.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): go fallow or get pruned there. There may be that space for 66 00:07:38.540 --> 00:07:46.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for mourning, and for holding the grief and the anger and the fury at at what we can't have or don't have 67 00:07:49.060 --> 00:08:06.219 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And for me this time, because it's a time of holy and a lot of India and the diaspora, and also in where I'm from in Assam, where my family's from. It's mug bih, which is like a spring festival to celebrate the 68 00:08:06.610 --> 00:08:12.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the coming back of the crops, and all of those things in color and light, the days getting longer. 69 00:08:13.880 --> 00:08:20.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): My experience of the festival. So we're my family is very much a like a Durga and Kali. 70 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The community that 71 00:08:22.390 --> 00:08:27.299 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): they're in is a Durga and collie worshiping community or Durga and Polly relationship. 72 00:08:27.440 --> 00:08:29.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so there's a lot of 73 00:08:30.320 --> 00:08:48.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): presence, of death and of ending, and of that which is leaving, even at the same time as we're celebrating, it's not separated, it's not seen as like, Oh, we're spreading color. And now everything is perfect. It's like things are dying. Things are being born. And there's always this cycle. And so bringing that 74 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): perspective 75 00:08:51.810 --> 00:08:55.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to the celebration, too, like, just because 76 00:08:56.280 --> 00:09:03.109 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's grief or suffering in our lives and in the world. And there's so much in the world 77 00:09:04.020 --> 00:09:06.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it doesn't mean you can't be happy 78 00:09:06.510 --> 00:09:28.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in moments of happiness. And just because maybe you or I, or someone, is in a period of depression or grief, or anger, or whatever time we're in, it doesn't mean we can't enjoy really, truly enjoy, like, whatever it is, a cup of tea or a good conversation with a friend, or you know it, it's the both, and and 79 00:09:29.150 --> 00:09:33.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think that holy, and that the festival and the way it's like 80 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of co-opted, it gets really 81 00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:49.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): simplified into just celebrating the light and the color and everything's good. But that's not really. That's not been my experience of the spring festivals in this time. It's it's the both the both end. 82 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.902 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just pausing a moment to see. I'm sensing we're kind of in a more practice space 83 00:09:57.410 --> 00:10:00.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): today. But if anyone would like to share out loud 84 00:10:17.490 --> 00:10:18.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): small. 85 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:21.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we'll move into practice. 86 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You can always share in the in the chat as well. 87 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:27.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 88 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I thought we would practice today 89 00:10:32.390 --> 00:10:33.440 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): focused 90 00:10:33.580 --> 00:10:34.710 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on 91 00:10:35.990 --> 00:10:42.939 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): both Sentosia like the joy of creativity and just joy, of 92 00:10:43.930 --> 00:10:52.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like sheer being alive and embodied, and then also stop us like that burning passion and fire. 93 00:10:53.410 --> 00:10:54.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 94 00:10:56.920 --> 00:11:08.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so we'll take a little practice journey. So invitation to. If you have other things you're doing, or you have other applications open, if you'd like, and it's supportive to let those go 95 00:11:08.990 --> 00:11:11.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and close them, or just 96 00:11:11.530 --> 00:11:13.399 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): put them aside for 97 00:11:13.520 --> 00:11:15.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a little bit of time. 98 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:18.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then find an useful way to be 99 00:11:19.510 --> 00:11:26.729 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): whatever that might look like or feel like for you sitting standing, lying down. 100 00:11:28.970 --> 00:11:32.309 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I will invite the bell to drop us in 101 00:12:28.790 --> 00:12:30.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): deep breath in. 102 00:12:32.050 --> 00:12:34.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and a deep breath out 103 00:12:42.030 --> 00:12:44.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): reflecting on 104 00:12:46.410 --> 00:12:47.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Santosha. 105 00:12:48.470 --> 00:12:49.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And what 106 00:12:49.980 --> 00:12:51.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): simple things 107 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): bring you? Joy? 108 00:12:57.340 --> 00:12:59.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Could be the sunlight on 109 00:13:00.760 --> 00:13:02.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): flower, or your cat 110 00:13:03.780 --> 00:13:04.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): texture 111 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of a piece of clothing. 112 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:09.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): taste. 113 00:13:10.660 --> 00:13:11.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): fruit. 114 00:13:13.090 --> 00:13:15.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the scent of something that reminds you 115 00:13:16.330 --> 00:13:18.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of a different time. 116 00:13:25.530 --> 00:13:28.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then, perhaps, the kind of spiritual joy 117 00:13:29.010 --> 00:13:30.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that deep sense of 118 00:13:32.410 --> 00:13:35.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): satisfaction or peace 119 00:13:37.050 --> 00:13:42.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that might arise in practice, like in meditation, or Asana, or 120 00:13:43.880 --> 00:13:47.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): whatever formal practice you're doing, but also might happen 121 00:13:48.650 --> 00:13:50.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when something occurs 122 00:13:51.350 --> 00:13:55.229 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that would normally get a rise out of you. And instead, you just laugh 123 00:13:55.710 --> 00:13:58.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or like, oh, I see that 124 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:00.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm not. Gonna 125 00:14:00.560 --> 00:14:04.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm not gonna rise to debate and argue here. 126 00:14:10.150 --> 00:14:14.240 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's a kind of Samphosia kind of even contentment. 127 00:14:30.010 --> 00:14:37.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and at the very same time there may also be a drive to change things, to change something in your life. 128 00:14:37.750 --> 00:14:39.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to change things in the world 129 00:14:40.800 --> 00:14:44.169 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): top us a burning desire, a fire. 130 00:14:44.310 --> 00:14:46.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): passion for things to be 131 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:48.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): very different than they are 132 00:14:49.760 --> 00:14:53.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): more fair, more peaceful, more equitable. 133 00:14:57.260 --> 00:15:02.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And this might seem like a paradox that in the very same practice we've got both 134 00:15:02.810 --> 00:15:04.500 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): complete contentment 135 00:15:04.830 --> 00:15:06.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and burning desire 136 00:15:07.530 --> 00:15:08.590 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): passion. 137 00:15:14.540 --> 00:15:17.719 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and, in fact, it is a paradox. Both can be true 138 00:15:20.340 --> 00:15:24.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): sometimes, even at the very same moment, and in the very same person. 139 00:15:26.140 --> 00:15:28.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So bringing awareness to, if they're 140 00:15:28.900 --> 00:15:30.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): are any 141 00:15:33.520 --> 00:15:36.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): burning desires in you 142 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): something igniting, perhaps your spiritual willpower. 143 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:56.710 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe an exploration of what's calling you on a personal cultural systemic level. 144 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a balance of discipline and devotion. 145 00:16:23.980 --> 00:16:25.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Maybe another way of 146 00:16:26.150 --> 00:16:29.259 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): reflecting on this? Is, is there a revolution 147 00:16:29.900 --> 00:16:31.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that you are 148 00:16:31.870 --> 00:16:34.840 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): building, that you are contributing to? 149 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:40.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That could very well be a restful revolution. 150 00:16:41.910 --> 00:16:45.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and you don't have to be creating it. You could be 151 00:16:46.330 --> 00:16:47.710 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like one 152 00:16:47.760 --> 00:16:49.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): droplet of water in the wave. 153 00:17:07.450 --> 00:17:10.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's continuing with that metaphor 154 00:17:10.750 --> 00:17:13.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): being the drop of water in the wave. 155 00:17:13.810 --> 00:17:16.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): supported by the entire ocean. 156 00:17:17.260 --> 00:17:21.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So perhaps now resting a bit deeper into 157 00:17:23.780 --> 00:17:28.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the trust that you've got so many forces, spiritual forces. 158 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:32.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): allies, accomplices. 159 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): holding you up, riding, flowing with you. 160 00:17:37.610 --> 00:17:40.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): even if sometimes it doesn't feel that way. 161 00:17:43.740 --> 00:17:50.800 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so right now, you might be really identified, really connected to the wave or to the drop. 162 00:17:51.390 --> 00:17:54.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But remembering that you are also the ocean. 163 00:17:59.140 --> 00:18:00.570 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Interesting 164 00:18:03.630 --> 00:18:05.489 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that interconnectedness. 165 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:26.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you'd like, you can do a practice using our fingers 166 00:18:28.380 --> 00:18:29.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and breath. 167 00:18:30.820 --> 00:18:34.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhaling, touching thumb and pointer finger. 168 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exhaling, keeping them and pointer finger together. 169 00:18:41.760 --> 00:18:45.180 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and as the breath shifts, switching to them. 170 00:18:45.520 --> 00:18:47.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and middle finger 171 00:18:50.210 --> 00:18:52.799 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale and exhale 172 00:18:55.900 --> 00:19:00.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as the breath shifts moving to your ring finger. 173 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:02.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Inhale. 174 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:04.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exhale 175 00:19:06.070 --> 00:19:09.050 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on the next inhale thumb and pinky. 176 00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:19.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): since Santosha is an invitation. 177 00:19:19.490 --> 00:19:20.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 178 00:19:20.930 --> 00:19:24.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we're invited to practice in a way to 179 00:19:24.350 --> 00:19:26.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cultivate joy 180 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:29.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in any circumstance. 181 00:19:29.890 --> 00:19:33.659 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to find that which is joyful. If we would like to 182 00:19:34.310 --> 00:19:38.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): couple options for phrases you might use. 183 00:19:39.450 --> 00:19:43.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So the first thumb and pointer finger could be here. 184 00:19:45.670 --> 00:19:47.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Diamond ring. 185 00:19:47.800 --> 00:19:50.599 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sorry Thumb in middle is. 186 00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:54.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm in ring finger. 187 00:19:55.930 --> 00:19:57.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): happy 188 00:19:58.190 --> 00:20:00.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and Thumb and Pinky Ness. 189 00:20:01.020 --> 00:20:04.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you would like to practice with this, it would look like 190 00:20:04.610 --> 00:20:05.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 4 breaths. 191 00:20:06.260 --> 00:20:08.340 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Here is 192 00:20:08.610 --> 00:20:10.440 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): happy. This 193 00:20:11.730 --> 00:20:13.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): here is 194 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): happy mesh. 195 00:20:16.530 --> 00:20:21.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): If you prefer a different phrase, you can use any phrase you would like. 196 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:27.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or the Sanskrit sound, sah? Na, ma. 197 00:20:28.040 --> 00:20:29.779 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): which means truth 198 00:20:30.120 --> 00:20:32.260 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is my name. 199 00:20:34.020 --> 00:20:40.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We'll practice like this. I'll guide one more time. Both the English and the Sanskrit 200 00:20:40.620 --> 00:20:43.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale finger to them. 201 00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:45.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Here. 202 00:20:50.170 --> 00:20:53.319 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): middle finger to them, is 203 00:20:56.760 --> 00:20:59.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ring the finger to them. 204 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:00.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): happy 205 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Pinky! To them. 206 00:21:06.430 --> 00:21:07.410 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Ness 207 00:21:10.850 --> 00:21:12.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): pointed to them 208 00:21:12.870 --> 00:21:13.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): sa 209 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:19.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): middle to them. 210 00:21:19.430 --> 00:21:20.340 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Ta 211 00:21:25.420 --> 00:21:27.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ring fingers at them. 212 00:21:31.470 --> 00:21:34.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Pinky to them, ma. 213 00:21:34.940 --> 00:21:37.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): practice like this 214 00:21:37.870 --> 00:21:40.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for a few minutes on our own breath. Rhythm! 215 00:23:43.890 --> 00:23:46.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): She breath in 216 00:23:47.540 --> 00:23:49.339 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): full breath out 217 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.799 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): making circles 218 00:23:54.220 --> 00:23:55.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with your wrists 219 00:23:57.650 --> 00:23:58.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): outward. 220 00:24:01.910 --> 00:24:03.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we're in. 221 00:24:03.800 --> 00:24:09.169 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then extending those circles. If you would like to your elbows, your full arm. 222 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:19.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just acknowledging. If there's tightness, or stiffness, or cracking, I never know if you can hear my my body, Prax, a lot. 223 00:24:20.045 --> 00:24:35.665 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't know if it picks up on the on the mic, but just being there with your body as it is, and then, if these circles feel good and you want to, you can move your whole torso, and I kind of circle 224 00:24:36.780 --> 00:24:38.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like that wave. 225 00:24:39.330 --> 00:24:41.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or maybe like the ocean. 226 00:24:56.950 --> 00:25:13.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and always love being reminded of the wave in the ocean and the Yoga Vesishta says one can have moments of realization, right? Moments of like. Yes, I am. I'm not. I'm not separate. I'm connected to everything. I am the ocean. 227 00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:20.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but we must practice always. So that reminder of. 228 00:25:20.110 --> 00:25:25.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, even after getting to be enlightened, the bit of practice 229 00:25:25.060 --> 00:25:26.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): still meditated 230 00:25:26.850 --> 00:25:30.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and built community built, Sanda. 231 00:25:30.830 --> 00:25:35.749 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so you're not behind. You're not doing it wrong. 232 00:25:35.860 --> 00:25:37.340 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You're not like. 233 00:25:39.450 --> 00:25:45.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's no there's no there other than here. Right? So this is what is 234 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:53.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, moving in any ways that you want to just complete the 235 00:25:53.810 --> 00:25:55.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the movement cycle 236 00:25:56.420 --> 00:26:09.240 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then keeping that meditative focus. I'm going to drop some questions in the chat, and you can feel free to journal on these, or just anything that's come up in our meditation 237 00:26:10.040 --> 00:26:13.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and reflection on 238 00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:15.809 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): some Tosha, and on top of. 239 00:26:18.390 --> 00:26:20.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So here are 240 00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:25.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): questions. 241 00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:31.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what ignites your spiritual willpower for practice 242 00:26:31.560 --> 00:26:32.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): right now. 243 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:40.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how can you balance discipline and devotion? And you don't need to answer all of these. You can just pick one. Reflect on that. 244 00:26:40.570 --> 00:26:49.119 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): What joys and passions are calling you on a personal, cultural or systemic level, what drives your passion? 245 00:26:49.950 --> 00:26:53.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): What is Yoga asking of you right now? 246 00:26:53.780 --> 00:26:55.730 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): How can you heed the call? 247 00:26:55.790 --> 00:26:57.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Is there anything 248 00:26:57.600 --> 00:26:59.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): getting in your way? 249 00:27:01.020 --> 00:27:07.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): How can you ignite your fire as part of the revolution you are contributing to, or nourishing or building. 250 00:27:11.950 --> 00:27:16.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Okay, so I'll play some music, and we'll reflect for 251 00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:20.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): around 4 or 5 min, and then we'll share 252 00:28:19.040 --> 00:28:19.830 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the 253 00:28:22.300 --> 00:28:23.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): O. 254 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): A. 255 00:29:18.600 --> 00:29:19.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): In 256 00:29:24.850 --> 00:29:26.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a 257 00:29:26.110 --> 00:29:27.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a. 258 00:29:30.090 --> 00:29:36.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a. 259 00:29:56.330 --> 00:29:58.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a. 260 00:30:18.970 --> 00:30:20.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a. 261 00:30:24.390 --> 00:30:26.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a 262 00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:49.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a 263 00:31:12.390 --> 00:31:13.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to 264 00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:26.500 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a 265 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:28.040 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): do you 266 00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:04.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): do? 267 00:33:25.670 --> 00:33:28.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Taking a minute more to finish up your thoughts 268 00:33:59.730 --> 00:34:00.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): useful. 269 00:34:02.460 --> 00:34:07.040 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm opening it up to see if anyone would like to share 270 00:34:07.670 --> 00:34:12.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): reflections on practice on any of the questions 271 00:34:12.429 --> 00:34:16.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or anything going on in your life at this time 272 00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:19.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): can explore from a Yogic perspective. 273 00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:59.849 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I love your reflection in the chat. Invitation to rest is balancing. Thank you. 274 00:35:00.070 --> 00:35:03.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. And sometimes, you know, this is like. 275 00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:13.329 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I was meeting with a number of organizers who are working you know, ceasefire. And like pro-palestinian work. And and 276 00:35:13.620 --> 00:35:21.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): people burn out right like folks here. The things you're doing in your lives like it's very easy to burn out, and so 277 00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:23.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): relying on 278 00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:30.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): others to know that when we maybe pull back or take some time to rest. 279 00:35:30.860 --> 00:35:44.750 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we're the wave, but we're also the ocean, so we can rest. And others can be that wave showing up to the actions or doing the work, and not in that way where, you know when it's our time again, we can rise and move into the wave, but 280 00:35:44.770 --> 00:35:48.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we can flow a bit more as opposed to to force. 281 00:35:48.930 --> 00:35:51.069 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I feel like for me. 282 00:35:51.130 --> 00:36:02.289 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yoga, and the practice of it gives me the perspective to trust this, and also to see when I'm really trying to force this, when I actually need to rest. 283 00:36:02.510 --> 00:36:03.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or 284 00:36:04.150 --> 00:36:06.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the invitation to rest. 285 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:20.759 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): My fire is igniting from color and art, sharing my love of planting seedlings and drawing with children that's beautiful. Hearing the young ones call for revolution. Yes, they are what gets in my way. 286 00:36:20.780 --> 00:36:29.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): In this moment I feel supported and nurtured by the radical permission to just be by a loving community. Thank you, Don. 287 00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:32.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Would anyone else like to share? 288 00:36:42.020 --> 00:36:43.979 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, Justine, Hi. 289 00:36:45.830 --> 00:36:47.299 Justine (she/her): You know the 290 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.599 Justine (she/her): when you just dropped in the thing about the waves and the droplets in the ocean. 291 00:36:52.860 --> 00:37:01.780 Justine (she/her): It's funny that image just stuck with me. How I just feel. I'm the drop, and I forget that the ocean is holding me up. And so there's that 292 00:37:02.410 --> 00:37:03.029 Justine (she/her): that 293 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:09.199 Justine (she/her): constant, this has to do with Santosh, and rest too, like the 294 00:37:09.430 --> 00:37:11.280 Justine (she/her): those pieces that are 295 00:37:11.850 --> 00:37:14.880 Justine (she/her): on the bottom of a priority list. 296 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:17.370 Justine (she/her): because it's more of like a reward. 297 00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:21.609 Justine (she/her): and it is a necessity. That's how I've been conditioned. 298 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.260 Justine (she/her): And so I'm just wondering about the 299 00:37:25.110 --> 00:37:27.439 Justine (she/her): the siloing off. And and 300 00:37:27.710 --> 00:37:32.910 Justine (she/her): and I'm thinking of it's always in my mind about the workspaces systems. Just 301 00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:38.809 Justine (she/her): or so many years I've been in these systems that are set up to isolate. 302 00:37:39.220 --> 00:37:40.240 Justine (she/her): And 303 00:37:41.370 --> 00:37:52.860 Justine (she/her): this is what I was taught. This is how it is, and this is how we're supposed to show up in workspaces are in community, and I feel like it kind of broke down community. 304 00:37:53.240 --> 00:37:54.120 Justine (she/her): And 305 00:37:54.890 --> 00:37:57.909 Justine (she/her): and there's always this sense of 306 00:37:59.080 --> 00:38:03.780 Justine (she/her): just wondering about trying to wanting to call out at the the harmful 307 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:05.190 Justine (she/her): parts to it. 308 00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:07.380 Justine (she/her): and just how to 309 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:08.690 Justine (she/her): hmm. 310 00:38:10.540 --> 00:38:18.100 Justine (she/her): because I don't want to continue with this harmful practice. That is something that is so ingrained in me. And I'm like in my 50. 311 00:38:18.310 --> 00:38:25.699 Justine (she/her): So it's like, and so I've I've been masking all this time, thinking I have to keep up with that 312 00:38:25.740 --> 00:38:26.900 Justine (she/her): system 313 00:38:26.950 --> 00:38:32.120 Justine (she/her): when it's really completely harmed my health, so health 314 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:33.950 Justine (she/her): and 315 00:38:34.620 --> 00:38:36.399 Justine (she/her): and it there. Then there's that 316 00:38:36.410 --> 00:38:40.090 Justine (she/her): thing about pulling ourselves up by the bootstraps. That kind of 317 00:38:40.310 --> 00:38:41.949 Justine (she/her): thing that was also 318 00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:43.319 Justine (she/her): pushed in 319 00:38:44.010 --> 00:38:47.179 Justine (she/her): my system as well. So I 320 00:38:48.540 --> 00:38:51.690 Justine (she/her): I really want to be in a place of unlearning. 321 00:38:51.890 --> 00:38:53.629 Justine (she/her): but also not feeling safe 322 00:38:53.710 --> 00:38:57.080 Justine (she/her): to do so in the systems that I'm in 323 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:03.609 Justine (she/her): and also call them out at it, and I'm doing it sort of being a squeaky wheel. But then it's like 324 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:04.840 Justine (she/her): there's 325 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:11.330 Justine (she/her): especially at the elementary school level. That is like no way you don't go there so. 326 00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:14.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 327 00:39:15.250 --> 00:39:25.799 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you, Justine, for that reflection. I can really relate to it. And I want to open up to the community for any insights or any thoughts, because I think 328 00:39:26.580 --> 00:39:34.340 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for sure you're not alone, and there may be ways that other folks have reflected on this this tension. 329 00:39:34.721 --> 00:39:41.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I feel like just being in capitalism, you know, like late stage capitalism, there's so much tension between 330 00:39:41.620 --> 00:39:42.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what we might 331 00:39:43.310 --> 00:39:54.159 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): want to do and contribute. And then the things that we feel forced to do, or that we have to do, or we don't feel like there's a choice. And then the systems that we're in work. Or 332 00:39:54.190 --> 00:39:57.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, other systems, family systems, cultural systems can 333 00:39:58.210 --> 00:39:59.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): can really 334 00:39:59.740 --> 00:40:10.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exacerbate all of those things. So just opening it up to see if anyone has insights, or or inquiries, or reflections on what Justine shared. 335 00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:26.229 Bonnie Walker (she/they): Justine, are you talking about the educational system? And specifically in Massachusetts? 336 00:40:26.250 --> 00:40:27.340 Bonnie Walker (she/they): Okay. 337 00:40:29.340 --> 00:40:45.950 Bonnie Walker (she/they): I do have thoughts and ideas. But maybe we should talk like on Whatsapp, or have a different conversation cause? I mean, I I left education for the same reasons, like 30 years ago, I lasted 2 years, and I was out. So 338 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:53.739 Bonnie Walker (she/they): yeah, it's hard when you're further along in your career. And you're probably financially dependent on it, too. So 339 00:40:57.610 --> 00:41:04.230 Bonnie Walker (she/they): But the things off the top of my head are maybe getting more involved with nonprofits instead of 340 00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:06.529 Bonnie Walker (she/they): the K 12 system. 341 00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:11.030 Bonnie Walker (she/they): and then any alternative education 342 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:30.749 Bonnie Walker (she/they): venues that you could switch to. It's just as a Massachusetts pay teacher. You're probably gonna have to take a pay cut. I just Massachusetts pays really well, like here in Oregon. It would be a no brainer to like. Go do something else because our teachers get paid. Crap. So yeah. 343 00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:42.660 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 344 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:47.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as someone. I was in the educational system and various parts of it for 345 00:41:48.770 --> 00:41:50.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 15 or 16 years. 346 00:41:53.600 --> 00:41:57.830 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): more, if we count like the internships and stuff I did that were very low paid. 347 00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I was in college. 348 00:41:59.590 --> 00:42:00.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 349 00:42:05.190 --> 00:42:11.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think that sometimes I just tried to focus on like being the change. 350 00:42:11.640 --> 00:42:12.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like 351 00:42:12.870 --> 00:42:14.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): slowing down. 352 00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:22.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): doing things like using the restroom between classes, making sure I ate and was hydrated. 353 00:42:22.140 --> 00:42:25.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inviting students to do the same, you know, like 354 00:42:25.910 --> 00:42:39.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): really counter cultural to the speed and the demands that most of the places I was working were moving at and and really like returning to basics like, am I tired? Am I hungry? Am I, you know? 355 00:42:40.040 --> 00:42:45.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Are students tired? Are they hungry? So they need a break? Do they need movement to? And 356 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:56.169 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I say that to say it wasn't always popular, and it didn't always work well in the institutions that I was working in. But it felt like 357 00:42:56.490 --> 00:43:00.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it was really modeling another way to be. 358 00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:02.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that message 359 00:43:03.020 --> 00:43:06.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): transmitted. Sometimes I couldn't say it. 360 00:43:06.170 --> 00:43:08.019 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but I could embody it. 361 00:43:08.100 --> 00:43:12.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and people got that message, and then 362 00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:18.072 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the ones who were open to to receive it, and the ones who weren't certainly didn't you know? 363 00:43:19.620 --> 00:43:24.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): In a way, it felt like what I had to do, especially in the last, like 364 00:43:24.110 --> 00:43:28.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): half decade of of the work in order to just like. 365 00:43:29.150 --> 00:43:32.820 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): be okay and be relatively well. 366 00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:35.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): had to slow down, and I had to do less 367 00:43:38.440 --> 00:44:02.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and really prioritize like things like retreats or meditation spaces during the times that I wasn't working like have the the boundaries of my work life be very distinct. So I could take care of myself really intensively. I think of teachers like frontline workers, you know. I felt like I was, and I was doing so many jobs like 368 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:10.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): social worker and therapist and educator and mentor for so for. 369 00:44:10.930 --> 00:44:17.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like an unfeasible Caseload, essentially right, like 300 400 students 370 00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:21.359 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a week a day, and then every week. 371 00:44:21.560 --> 00:44:22.830 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So 372 00:44:23.570 --> 00:44:33.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): one of the things that that perspective helped me shift a, and also honestly like seeing that I was. The structures wanted me to be a tool in the school to prison pipeline. 373 00:44:33.980 --> 00:44:48.540 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so that I was actually kind of like if I join the Peace Corps, or something like my presence in that country, was gonna probably be doing as much harm, if not more than good. I started to understand that my presence as a 374 00:44:48.660 --> 00:44:49.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): teacher 375 00:44:50.330 --> 00:44:59.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): was somewhat functioning in that way, but I could do what I could do to try to shift. So I was interrupting those systems and the way that they were, you know. 376 00:44:59.930 --> 00:45:06.789 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): going, which sometimes meant more pressure for me like I never failed students, and I never kicked students out of my class. 377 00:45:07.245 --> 00:45:22.189 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Because that for me was like, I'm gonna do what I can to help everyone here who comes through my doors graduate. But sometimes my class would be classes would be like 50 or 70 students, because the counselors need that. So they'd put extra people in my class. 378 00:45:22.390 --> 00:45:23.989 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but all that to say, like 379 00:45:26.140 --> 00:45:29.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I made the choices that I needed to make 380 00:45:29.510 --> 00:45:36.659 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to address the structural inequities, the ways that I could, and then I also really took care of myself, and I did. 381 00:45:38.430 --> 00:45:41.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I didn't really strategize an exit plan. 382 00:45:41.520 --> 00:45:44.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I just I got let go 383 00:45:44.434 --> 00:46:08.679 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so. But had I probably been there a few more years I would have been strategizing an exit plan. I might imagine imagining, you know, that alternative, timeline is, it probably would have been around year 20. So I just because of the way I am, I'm very tenacious and very loyal, so I probably wouldn't like. It was time for me to go, but I wasn't seeing it, you know. So also, just like. 384 00:46:09.310 --> 00:46:18.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if there's other things like Bonnie saying that you can look into till those are my, my shares. Yeah, you are the shining star for so many students. 385 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:36.829 Bonnie Walker (she/they): Yeah. I also had the borderline cases stacked full in my classes. For the same reason I didn't flunk anybody. I gave them detentions, and made them do their homework with me so so they could brag about having a detention and and then time to do their homework. So. 386 00:46:43.070 --> 00:46:45.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Christine. I don't know if any of that's helpful. 387 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:51.769 Justine (she/her): Thank you, appreciate it. 388 00:46:52.220 --> 00:46:52.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 389 00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm strategizing for some time. Yeah. 390 00:46:57.600 --> 00:47:02.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is the same for me. And so and you know, nonprofits can be 391 00:47:03.330 --> 00:47:07.809 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): better. But nonprofit culture is also, can be very 392 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.041 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hard and devastating as well. 393 00:47:12.290 --> 00:47:28.459 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And perhaps there's other ways to work with young people that would be more sustainable or even different, like one of the things that I shifted to do at a certain point was work in a credit recovery program. So I was meeting with students, one to one. And my my 394 00:47:28.540 --> 00:47:39.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): students that I met with was was around 30 every week, and that job it was different. You know. It was like a different kind of program. Was was really good 395 00:47:40.130 --> 00:47:41.730 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in terms of the 396 00:47:41.850 --> 00:48:04.017 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): energy and my nervous system, and all of that, except for one of the bosses, you know, if you have a not very kind boss, no job is that enjoyable, even if it's the best job ever. And so it was that I had a yelling boss. So I I ended up having to leave. Dax was like, how did I end up with this? You know, verbally use situation again. 397 00:48:04.340 --> 00:48:09.299 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so that was me choosing to end a pattern which I was proud of. 398 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:18.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. And the students will find their way. They will and they appreciate you for taking care of yourself. They really do. I still get notes for my students? 399 00:48:18.859 --> 00:48:29.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's really sweet, and they they'll remember you, and you will have had an impact. And you don't need to keep putting yourself in that position. If it's no longer right for you. 400 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:48.180 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that's for all of us, you know, is, and sometimes the exit plan can take some time like it may not be right in the moment you realize. Oh, I'm done with this. It may be there may be a transition plan for a year, you know, whatever it takes to to ease that for you. 401 00:48:48.680 --> 00:48:56.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): He did have burner in 2,013 teaching in California. And I returned to Massachusetts. Took a few years to go back into the system. Yeah, yeah. 402 00:48:57.640 --> 00:48:58.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. Late. 403 00:49:03.200 --> 00:49:04.640 wade: Hey? Good afternoon. 404 00:49:05.350 --> 00:49:13.460 wade: it's so funny because I feel like every time I join these calls like, it's like exactly what I need to hear, you know, like, based on what's going on in my 405 00:49:14.870 --> 00:49:16.445 wade: and I was 406 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.980 wade: Gonna ask you if you could speak a little bit more about like 407 00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:27.100 wade: setting those boundaries to end those patterns. Currently, I mean an organizing situation 408 00:49:27.230 --> 00:49:28.310 wade: where 409 00:49:28.720 --> 00:49:31.989 wade: the lead organizer is someone who's like verbally abusive 410 00:49:32.170 --> 00:49:34.080 wade: and like 411 00:49:35.143 --> 00:49:38.949 wade: kind of like in this modality where they're like. 412 00:49:39.310 --> 00:49:44.269 wade: nobody showing up enough about it. 413 00:49:44.310 --> 00:49:45.869 wade: And I'm just like. 414 00:49:46.100 --> 00:50:04.439 wade: been reflecting a lot about like, Okay, I really need to set boundaries with this person, because I'm trusting that, like my capacity, like I am enough like that ocean, the drop, the weight, you know, and it like I had this whole interaction with this person a few days ago, where I got yelled at in front of a group of people, and it was like 415 00:50:04.520 --> 00:50:07.720 wade: humiliating, and like also like really like 416 00:50:08.060 --> 00:50:13.760 wade: mess with my nervous system in a big way. And I've just like had to be resetting and grounding to like. 417 00:50:14.190 --> 00:50:19.760 wade: be like, okay, like, why am I even doing this work like, how do I approach it? And like 418 00:50:20.102 --> 00:50:42.020 wade: reflecting on the notes, the thing about like what ignites your fire cause. I feel like my fire like got so dwindled after this interaction with this person is like setting boundaries and affirming those boundaries, honoring those boundaries. But I'm like, I think, because I've been so conditioned to be like a people pleaser in life, and like just show up for family and just show up and like, keep showing up. It's like. 419 00:50:42.570 --> 00:50:46.310 wade: that's a weird that's like a different place for me. And I'm like, Whoa! 420 00:50:46.420 --> 00:50:49.919 wade: Where do I begin? Yeah. 421 00:50:51.560 --> 00:50:59.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, thank you for sharing. And first, like, I'm so sorry that happened. No one should be humiliated. 422 00:50:59.420 --> 00:51:01.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): No one should be held at 423 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.879 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in private or in front of other people. 424 00:51:03.930 --> 00:51:06.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And yeah, that's not okay. 425 00:51:11.610 --> 00:51:15.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): makes me really angry and upset for you. 426 00:51:15.890 --> 00:51:18.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just naming like. 427 00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:23.570 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. And and I also can really relate, because I've been there. 428 00:51:24.040 --> 00:51:26.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I remember once 429 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:28.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a friend of mine. 430 00:51:29.150 --> 00:51:39.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Shaquay. She worked at a sneakers like a sneaker store, and her boss yelled, and she said to him, like, What makes you think you can talk to me that way. 431 00:51:39.590 --> 00:51:42.819 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know. And I she was relaying this story to me. 432 00:51:43.310 --> 00:51:46.939 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's like, Oh, yeah, like, we get to ask. 433 00:51:47.640 --> 00:51:50.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like, we get to 434 00:51:50.200 --> 00:51:51.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ask for 435 00:51:51.690 --> 00:51:54.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): respect in communication. 436 00:51:54.260 --> 00:52:03.820 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's tricky, because you know, she didn't work there for too much longer. Because the boss couldn't change his way of communicating. 437 00:52:05.864 --> 00:52:13.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But I think one of the things well, I wanna share some particular, like some tools 438 00:52:13.820 --> 00:52:15.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me 439 00:52:15.120 --> 00:52:16.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): around boundaries. 440 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But I think it's this. It's like sharing about these things when they happen. 441 00:52:22.570 --> 00:52:30.289 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sometimes it's the community that reflects for us like that's not okay, you know. And and that gives us a strength and the 442 00:52:31.720 --> 00:52:35.800 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the understanding, the wisdom to know that 443 00:52:36.550 --> 00:52:39.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that it's actually not all right, like 444 00:52:39.310 --> 00:52:44.359 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I had a pattern of bosses in all my jobs that would yell at me 445 00:52:44.580 --> 00:52:45.545 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 446 00:52:47.770 --> 00:52:51.249 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or maybe I should say differently. There was a pattern. 447 00:52:51.980 --> 00:52:53.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 448 00:52:53.370 --> 00:52:56.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): part of it was me learning how to 449 00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:58.329 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how to not 450 00:53:00.370 --> 00:53:04.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): not tolerate that, you know. Like, set that boundary 451 00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:09.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): doesn't make it. Okay. Doesn't make it my fault, you know. Ever 452 00:53:09.940 --> 00:53:11.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so 453 00:53:12.220 --> 00:53:18.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think defining boundaries was really helpful, like, what? What are boundaries in the world? 454 00:53:18.950 --> 00:53:20.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And why do they exist? 455 00:53:21.240 --> 00:53:39.209 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And for me, like what are some of my boundaries, and honestly like having that conversation with people in my life like maybe some folks here can think about like what are boundaries that you have, and and drop those in the chat, because the more we talk about them 456 00:53:39.570 --> 00:53:42.979 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the more helpful I think it is to realize, like 457 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:48.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we all have different boundaries. And they're all valid right? And sometimes. 458 00:53:48.670 --> 00:53:50.789 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like someone's boundaries may 459 00:53:50.850 --> 00:53:53.819 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cramp up against someone else's boundaries. 460 00:53:54.010 --> 00:54:03.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And that's okay. Then it's a negotiation. Then it's a conversation. But your your boundaries are yours, and so they're always valid. 461 00:54:04.120 --> 00:54:05.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 462 00:54:05.650 --> 00:54:07.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I often use 463 00:54:08.230 --> 00:54:13.840 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): model that I learned from Marshall Rosenberg. It's nonviolent communication. 464 00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:17.399 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I'm gonna just share my screen. 465 00:54:20.630 --> 00:54:22.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): let me know if this is 466 00:54:22.850 --> 00:54:25.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): helpful. Can you see my screen. 467 00:54:26.645 --> 00:54:33.939 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. Feel free to to screenshot this. This is from the 200 h manual. 468 00:54:34.650 --> 00:54:36.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But the idea is 469 00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:41.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): using, I statements and then communicating. 470 00:54:41.490 --> 00:54:44.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): observing right without judgment. 471 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:49.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): This is an example that I had. I dated someone for a decade who was always late. 472 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): come to find out. 473 00:54:52.380 --> 00:54:54.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I really don't like that. 474 00:54:54.544 --> 00:55:04.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I didn't really know honestly until after the relationship was over, like how frustrating was. And then I met up with with him again. 475 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.215 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like 2 years later. Oh, we're just friends, whatever. He's still late. 476 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:13.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But now I have these tools right? So I observe 477 00:55:13.100 --> 00:55:17.080 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what happened. I observed that I waited for 20 min alone at the restaurant. 478 00:55:18.430 --> 00:55:26.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I might say, like half the time that we said we would meet right, but that might feel a bit like judgment, but it's it's an observation. 479 00:55:27.940 --> 00:55:32.539 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Feelings. I feel angry, uncomfortable, and upset when my time is not respected 480 00:55:32.570 --> 00:55:37.820 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): needs. I need to have my time respected, and then a specific request. 481 00:55:38.730 --> 00:55:44.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Make it specific, attainable, mutual. Can you arrive on time? 482 00:55:45.230 --> 00:55:46.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 483 00:55:47.070 --> 00:55:48.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): since then 484 00:55:48.980 --> 00:55:56.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we haven't gotten together much, but he's been on time when we meet and I've learned 485 00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:14.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how important this value is to me. This boundary is to me. That doesn't mean, you know, if I'm meeting someone, and they're late, that we're not going to be friends. But I'll communicate that boundary. And so, maybe running through like what you observe around the communication how it makes you feel the need that you have 486 00:56:14.780 --> 00:56:21.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and a request, and sometimes we can't necessarily do that with the other person. 487 00:56:21.300 --> 00:56:25.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But we can run through for ourselves right like. 488 00:56:25.620 --> 00:56:34.259 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's like my. Some of my bosses could not have had this kind of communication. They wouldn't have received it, or they would have just yelled. 489 00:56:34.290 --> 00:56:36.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and yet I can still 490 00:56:37.350 --> 00:56:45.279 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): clarify and state my boundaries in a way it feels what I need, and then perhaps make that request to myself right? 491 00:56:46.437 --> 00:56:50.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then in here I'm just gonna scroll to in case it's helpful. 492 00:56:50.690 --> 00:56:52.809 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I I actually wonder 493 00:56:54.550 --> 00:57:00.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): where the this material is. I think you can still get it at the center for nonviolent communication. 494 00:57:04.290 --> 00:57:13.499 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's helpful for me. You can Google, though, like feelings, lists right like feelings when your needs are more satisfied, like 495 00:57:14.200 --> 00:57:18.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when I'm doing activist work. I want to feel these things. 496 00:57:19.640 --> 00:57:20.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): not 497 00:57:21.420 --> 00:57:29.590 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): these things right when my needs are not satisfied. I don't want to feel afraid or embarrassed or shamed, or you know. 498 00:57:29.690 --> 00:57:32.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And and that's okay. Just because we're doing 499 00:57:32.990 --> 00:57:35.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): important work, whatever it might be. 500 00:57:36.380 --> 00:57:39.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): No one deserves to feel this way. 501 00:57:39.190 --> 00:57:40.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We might 502 00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:42.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): happen to feel this way while something is happening. But 503 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.029 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): people shouldn't be making us feel this way. 504 00:57:47.690 --> 00:57:51.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That's a value that I have right. And so then. 505 00:57:51.510 --> 00:58:00.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just knowing these are basic human needs, you're not wrong or different for needing or or having these needs right for connection. 506 00:58:00.870 --> 00:58:07.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for physical well-being, for autonomy, for meaning, for play, for honesty, for peace. 507 00:58:08.370 --> 00:58:09.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 508 00:58:11.190 --> 00:58:13.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, I'm just looking to see 509 00:58:13.430 --> 00:58:15.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this gets into more like. 510 00:58:15.140 --> 00:58:17.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, the Yoga yoga 511 00:58:19.340 --> 00:58:21.050 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): psychology. But 512 00:58:21.380 --> 00:58:24.119 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this for me is is what I come back to 513 00:58:24.260 --> 00:58:28.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): specifically this process, and that helps me validate 514 00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:29.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): my own. 515 00:58:30.050 --> 00:58:34.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): my own needs, just remembering that there are basic human needs and that 516 00:58:34.130 --> 00:58:36.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): boundaries are usually just 517 00:58:36.090 --> 00:58:40.499 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): statement of a value or something that's important. You know, a need that you have. 518 00:58:40.780 --> 00:58:41.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 519 00:58:42.830 --> 00:58:44.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's absolutely 520 00:58:47.110 --> 00:58:48.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): What's the word like? 521 00:58:49.120 --> 00:58:50.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's so 522 00:58:50.660 --> 00:58:53.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): appropriate to communicate 523 00:58:53.650 --> 00:58:54.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): your boundaries. 524 00:58:55.180 --> 00:58:56.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 525 00:58:57.210 --> 00:59:00.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): they're valid. No one gets to invalidate 526 00:59:00.430 --> 00:59:02.659 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what your needs are. You 527 00:59:03.930 --> 00:59:07.240 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): get to state those and know them. 528 00:59:07.850 --> 00:59:11.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So, stopping there and just checking in 529 00:59:11.520 --> 00:59:12.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): chat 530 00:59:12.790 --> 00:59:13.970 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): helpful. 531 00:59:14.030 --> 00:59:17.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you. Okay, so it's you have to check out. Yeah. 532 00:59:22.310 --> 00:59:23.500 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): any 533 00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:28.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): anything there, Wade. 534 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.059 wade: Yeah, this is all really, really. 535 00:59:32.090 --> 00:59:34.281 wade: really helpful. Thank you. 536 00:59:35.140 --> 00:59:38.839 wade: this has been a big, a big help. I'm 537 00:59:38.900 --> 00:59:43.840 wade: like, literally about to have a call. So we're supposed to have an organizing call 538 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:54.959 wade: this evening. And I've just been like in this corner being like, how do I even prepare for this. How do I articulate boundaries like and just hearing? This is like affirming, because I think like the experience of like 539 00:59:55.680 --> 01:00:08.719 wade: being you know, yelled at and like diminished and gasolit. It really makes you question like your own, like, am I just overthinking things? Am I just being too sensitive like 540 01:00:09.020 --> 01:00:18.289 wade: I just need to show up. I just need to show up. I just need to show up. And it's like, No, actually, I think I I need to like, stand up for myself and like, affirm 541 01:00:18.470 --> 01:00:19.320 wade: that 542 01:00:19.460 --> 01:00:21.700 wade: my needs are my needs. And 543 01:00:22.100 --> 01:00:23.250 wade: it's okay. 544 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:24.530 wade: like that's 545 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:26.390 wade: that's 546 01:00:26.600 --> 01:00:30.809 wade: it's good. That's a good thing, you know, and not 547 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:39.145 wade: that is inconvenient. Or else like next spring, might. 548 01:00:40.370 --> 01:00:41.240 wade: you know? 549 01:00:41.930 --> 01:00:42.940 wade: Yeah, like. 550 01:00:43.140 --> 01:00:48.460 wade: it's like, the question is that like we said, I'm like, How do. I did this already, but like 551 01:00:48.710 --> 01:00:50.705 wade: life, you know. 552 01:00:51.370 --> 01:01:06.893 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, yes, like circling back around to the same learnings. It took me a very long time. It's still there for me, and and I do want to say. Jessica saw Jeremy's hands. I want to come to you, Jeremy, and I wanna say Jessica talked about like 553 01:01:11.220 --> 01:01:13.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The one other 554 01:01:14.340 --> 01:01:15.610 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): pieces. 555 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:36.989 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's not your job to change how they feel about you stating your needs. Right? So that's a big one I have to work on is like my needs are my needs, my values, or my values, and it may make someone else uncomfortable or unhappy, or they may be furious, or whatever. But I don't have to vacate them or change how they feel. 556 01:01:37.080 --> 01:01:42.899 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I just have to be responsible for knowing and naming my needs and my emotions. 557 01:01:43.454 --> 01:01:46.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Passing to you, Jeremy, did you have your hand up? 558 01:01:46.950 --> 01:01:47.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 559 01:01:47.740 --> 01:01:58.770 Jeremy: Yeah, I had something for weight. Actually, in addition, because I've also been in organizing situations where I've been spoken over or had my ideas kind of 560 01:01:59.467 --> 01:02:15.140 Jeremy: I don't know like trounced by somebody who sometimes there are these people who it's you. Just look at them. And you're like, okay, you you have to be right over me right like this is your attitude. Well, but wait! I heard you say that your fire had been 561 01:02:15.140 --> 01:02:29.270 Jeremy: shrunken or diminished by this process. And so there is also the type of boundary which is, don't shrink my fire, you know my fire is gonna burn, and some of the practices that I've done to get that to work is. 562 01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:53.910 Jeremy: if somebody does that to me, I will shrink, and I will feel awful. But the counter action, the the fight back on that is to make space for your ideas. Write them down, say them out loud into the room. Have it be that you are embodying these ideas? And then, even if somebody else is trying to gaslight you because a lot of people have these narcissistic personalities that they really wanna be 563 01:02:54.340 --> 01:03:05.389 Jeremy: correct, and they can't. They can dish it out, but they cannot take it. So when you try to push back with boundaries which I think is appropriate. Sometimes you do get the response of, you know. No, I won't hear that. 564 01:03:05.390 --> 01:03:28.500 Jeremy: But this works in kind of the way that prayer works a little bit like let's say I'll use Susannah for an example. This is not true between me and her. But let's say that I am like super mad at Susanna, right? And I don't want her to be able to progress in something. So I'm gonna have this like attitude. She's gonna be able to feel that on some level, and there's not gonna be room with me 565 01:03:28.500 --> 01:03:49.310 Jeremy: to expand. But if I have already thought of you know what I would really love Susanna to be able to expand as brightly as possible in the world. Then around me, Susanna is gonna be able to grow more. And so the same works for you. If you'll be able to take up more space and grow more if you develop that territory to 566 01:03:49.470 --> 01:04:11.554 Jeremy: be be present in the room with the other person. You don't have to say a thing, but you know they will eventually notice, and then maybe give you a minute to, you know, squeak in a thought, and if you've already developed your thoughts, it could be like Oh, well, here's thought, and then the person might be like, Hey, you know I had this thought, and like say the same thing, and they tried to take credit for. But the organization will get done. You know that your 567 01:04:12.010 --> 01:04:14.109 Jeremy: contribution can be. 568 01:04:14.460 --> 01:04:18.559 Jeremy: you know, adequately seen and heard in that space. Then. 569 01:04:24.410 --> 01:04:25.729 wade: Thanks, everybody. 570 01:04:27.970 --> 01:04:30.560 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you. We'll be sending you lots of 571 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:32.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): strength 572 01:04:32.020 --> 01:04:33.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and care. 573 01:04:34.700 --> 01:04:52.779 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So we're a little over time. I wanna honor folks time, and we'll close now. I did. Wanna know, Justine, you might not have seen it, but I appreciated you saying you ask chat, Gpt. And I asked a question back. What do you ask? That's really helpful to think about cause I need. 574 01:04:52.820 --> 01:05:06.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I need. I often need to write things out, too, for myself, and that, like script that I put in the chat of observation feelings, needs requests with has been really helpful for me, and I come back to it often. 575 01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:11.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I use it for a colleague, I added. 576 01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:17.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, you would lay out the situation. You'd share the observations, acknowledge them. 577 01:05:18.770 --> 01:05:20.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 578 01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:25.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ask for a solution. Wow! That's so cool. 579 01:05:25.260 --> 01:05:41.809 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I love that we can utilize these tools. You know they're not always like right. But then you can check with your own intuition as to whether what they respond is helpful. Wow, yeah, these were facts. Yeah, that's so cool. 580 01:05:42.130 --> 01:05:43.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just wanna 581 01:05:43.690 --> 01:05:49.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank everyone and invite you to take a moment to just connect to yourself. 582 01:05:50.650 --> 01:05:54.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to your own sovereignty, your own presence. 583 01:05:56.290 --> 01:06:01.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and thank you so much. You can unmute and say goodbye. 584 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:02.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 585 01:06:03.060 --> 01:06:04.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'll see you soon. 586 01:06:06.170 --> 01:06:07.689 Bonnie Walker (she/they): Bye, everybody! 587 01:06:09.090 --> 01:06:10.910 Carly Joelle: Good bye. Thank you. 588 01:06:12.290 --> 01:06:13.349 Cleo - Turtle Island: Thanks, bye. 589 01:06:14.180 --> 01:06:15.190 wade: Hey, everyone. 590 01:06:17.600 --> 01:06:19.090 Carly Joelle: Good luck on your call, Wade. 591 01:06:19.650 --> 01:06:20.930 wade: Yeah, thank you. 592 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:22.530 wade: Thanks.