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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So nice to see folks here for our December office hours, and I wanna just invite you to take a little time. Get

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what you need maybe some water, some tea, and I'm going to play some music.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and the invitation is

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for you to reflect on something that has brought you. Joy recently

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): says anything that has brought you joy. The team of centosia or joy

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): came up in some of the questions for today. So something that's brought you joy, and you can journal in your journals. You can write into the chat, and I'll play some music, and then we'll

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Welcome as folks are coming in. We're journaling about something that brought you joy. And it could be a little thing. It could be a big thing just checking. Can you hear me over the music? Yeah. So I wanna kind of expand us a little beyond the usual gratitude, like, yes.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm grateful for white trees outside my window, but perhaps there's something challenging or something that it. You don't have to go to the most challenging, but something where you can see the gift in the challenge. Or maybe you don't quite see it yet, but you know it's coming or journaling about

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): something that brought you toy recently, and it can be something where some things

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): welcome. We're reflecting internally about something that brought you joy. Recently.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): invitation to keep writing, if you would like. We're reflecting on something that has brought you joy.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I invited for the folks who are here a little earlier to to dig a little deeper, perhaps past, like the you know, water food like these are so important. And maybe there's something that's also like the challenge or challenging thing

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in my life. I was reminded recently how like, if someone has critical feedback for me.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that there's a way that I can respond to that that's really like this, you know, distancing or walls or boundary, but there's also a way that

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I can receive it, that it's such a gift, and of course I have to be in a place to be resourced and and be able to see that. But if

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm here in this life to

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): grow and pull the weeds

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that are there that I may have. Then who knows that critical feedback might might help me pull some weeds right, and I don't have to be attached to them, and if it's a misperception, then

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe we can have an opportunity to clarify, and if it's like a clear value difference, and we're not meeting.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then we have an opportunity to set boundaries and negotiate right. And maybe there's some other. You know, options that that don't exist. But I share this to say so. One of my recent joys and gratitudes is

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the opportunity to have challenging conversations and deep conversations. So it's a little bit more, I mean, I really love, like. you know, my Bfs people in my life that are like we love you, Susanna, those those it's great, and it probably because I have those people. I also have

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the opportunity, you know, like my kid have said the other day, even when I'm not even when I'm upset, or even when I'm grumpy, or even when I don't feel like being around you. I'll always be there for you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Like, Yeah, yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that's very wise, coming from an 11 year old, you know. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so there may be an opportunity today, as we're exploring some toshia to dig a little deeper in your joy. And if you're also at a place where you're like I am. I don't want to dig deep. I really am just barely here, and I'm barely making it. And so II need to focus on the sunshine. The fact that I have clean water like the fact that I have a blanket that's keeping me warm like, please please do that.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so always find your own way, your own truth. With this

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): no one else gets to define your joy for you. No one else gets to determine

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what Sam Toshia is for you, and you also get to change

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like what you don't have to hold on to the things that brought you joy

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): when you were little, or when you were medium or when you were big, I don't know this came from, but right like little media. But like whatever where wherever we're going in this.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in this arc of existence. So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): again, if you want to keep writing, please please keep writing. and if you would like to move a little bit. I wanted to bring in some movements.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and. as always.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): do what feels nourishing in your body. And so perhaps there's a way to start with movement that that brings you joy. I'm just trying to not like

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): be comfortable here. So maybe you're making some little adjustments. Maybe it's a wiggle. Maybe it's standing. Maybe it's adjusting your seat or close.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and what's feeling like joyful to me is when milling my arms, I feel a little tension in my shoulders so just checking in with your own body and moving.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it might not be yoga right like it might not be official Yoga shape, so we'd be like a wiggle or jiggle, or a little shape, or maybe a little toe tap, or it might be stillness

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you're in your chair.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and you want to, or you have a chair near you, maybe stretching your leg or holding onto a table and stretching through

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): through the lower body as well as the upper body.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm!

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then, wherever we are, I'll invite all of us to find a shape that's kind of inward folding that's like self tending self caring.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So maybe you're full forward, maybe for you self care looks like opening up, opening your heart back up to the towards the sky. You determine what that self care shape in this moment looks like, and it can change. You can move.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And now try another shape. If you would like that feels like self tending feels like self-care.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and if you're not sure. then an option might be to forward fold.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): See some folks doing that, so you can make a little pillow with your hands on a table or desk, or stand and fold forward, or walk your hands down your thighs. If you're sitting in a chair.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): deep breath in and full breath outfit through your mouth, releasing.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and one more time deep breath in

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then swaying a little bit or moving side to side.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then we'll take a moment

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): from that self-care. If you were kind of

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to stretching up and out. So you're making yourself big, creating space in your body. And that might be like you might still be here. But you just are making it in a big shape, or you might be legs out, arms out, really wide.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Breathe as if you can take up all the space in the room that you're in.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then kind of titrate for yourself, like the care and the expansion. and so see where that lands today like what it feels like. And for me, I kind of end up doing a little bit of like a cat cow movement

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like curving over and then opening up

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and just feeling like we're actually feels like a solid place of care, but also like a little bit open and heart heart expanded.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): When you find that shape will take a few breaths.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We'll probably hold this this shape.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): stillness or silence. If that feels right. If your movement feels better for you will hold this shape.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a shape that's self care, but also open.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): If that feels right for about

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 1012 breaths, so I'll guide us. You don't have to count, but if you would like, you can inhale self care

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and exhale love.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or any other 2 words that feel supportive to you in

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this shape.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): One more breath here.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): deep breath in deep breath out

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): moving in any ways that feels supportive to you. looking around your space.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then we'll come back to our circle

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): virtual circle.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And the quotes that I wanted to share with you. I put it in the chat. Maybe some folks who just got here, though let me put it again.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): By Banda Scaravelli, Yoga is a way of life. It changes you, and therefore changes the way you relate to other people

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and influence your environment.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And this quote really speaks to me, I think, because

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): especially right now for so many of us, it's like the holiday time for some folks. It's winter for many of us in the northern hemisphere.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): There's a lot happening. There's like global wars pandemic continuing. You know, it's it's a really hard time. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I really wanna be here as like the cheerleader to say, you get to take care of you. In fact, we need you to take care of you because you, caring for you allows you to then have those interactions where you have a little more patience, or have those moments where you can organize with your community. And you know for mutual aid, or show up to teach a class and not be burned out, because

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): again, I'm I don't know yet, cause I haven't done a kind of vibe check, and I wanna invite you to like share how you're doing vibe check in the chat.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But in my world people are burned out, exhausted, devastated like grieving and tired and overwhelmed. Some people are hopeful and joyful, and you know we go in and out have moments.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but I really wanna normalize like, if you're feeling challenging feelings

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that is welcome. You are welcome. It's this is not a good vibes, only kind of place, you know, like I know, I smile a lot. It's a coping mechanism slash.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think some sort of spiritual, you know, tool like to be able to bring joy even in the hardest moments for me is a practice.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And that's why I asked you, not in a kind of

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Pollyannaish way, but like what brings you joy, and maybe it's not easy joy, you know. Maybe it is. Maybe it's the surface level like for me

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): watching a fun show with my family we're watching

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as a colleague. It's a

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like a musical high school, musical, right like. And then it's about theater kids.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And my kiddo is coming up a lot, because one of those relationships where we're really working on stuff right now. And instead, like, Oh, do your homework? No, but I wanted, you know. And so it's like, What if we played a theater game? And we said Yes, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then, so that change me being resource right? This fun thing helped bring

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): something that shifted our dynamic, you know, from that oppositional to like.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how can we work together? Improv? Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. So that's been bringing me to. So I'd love to invite folks to share how you are, and also, if anyone would be willing to unmute.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): want to talk about your joy. to share in the chat.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  So I'm gonna pause to open it up.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you, Justine. And I also wanna honor folks feel more quiet today.  that that you don't have to share out loud or in the chat

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Carly Joelle: I can do a quick share. My name is Carly, she her and I I run a a small business, but it's big enough that there's or maybe this is just life. These like there's always a million things to do always.

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Carly Joelle: And I feel like my brain only really

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Carly Joelle: can focus in on those things, maybe once a month. And so I really harness it when I can. And yesterday felt like one of those days I was motivated, and I had the time. But one of my dear friends.

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Carly Joelle: her fifth grader, had a recital, and she, just just in passing mentioned it, and something just II felt right away like I need to go to that. And and when you asked what brought joy like that was. It was surprising, this fifth grader by showing up for them. And it was just it was really, really cool. And then I got up early this morning, and I got some work done, and it's gonna be okay.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you, Carly, sharing in your joy. Love that

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hmm. Dominique.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): hi! My son had a birthday a couple of weeks ago.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): and

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): He was sharing with me all the things that his friends were sending him

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): and their love for him, and these are friends that he's had since he he just turned 24.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): These are friends that he's had since elementary school.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): high school. And

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): I just felt really good cause I was beat myself up that maybe I'm not. I didn't do a good enough job, or that I wasn't. I mean, it's not true. He's a great person, but I always beat myself up because I was a single mom. So I felt like, maybe I didn't do enough, or I couldn't provide enough

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): where he had friends that had 2 parent homes, and they lived in these big houses, and I always felt like not enough

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): to hear

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): his friends, and how much they loved him and validated him. I was like oh.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): he turned out to be a good person like

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): I did a good job, and that, really like felt good for me, that he was loved too.

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): and that that was being reflected to him by his

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): male identifying friends, you know, and they outwardly showed that to him, and he could receive that. And I just felt like

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): he's a good person. II nurtured him well, and made sure he was in good community, and he has his lifelong friend. So that brought me a deep sense of joy like over the last couple of weeks. I've just been like, he did good

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers):  and I, just I felt good about that

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Dominique Lynch (she/her/hers): that's it

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you so much. I'm just really feeling your share, too, because it's like that feeling of not enoughness.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I mean it. I wanted to say how many of us of us had felt that today or yesterday, or like recently this week, I certainly have with something doesn't have to be parenting. It could be anything. But I think it's so universal, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me, at least, it's often something that I feel ashamed of, and so I don't talk about it. And so I also just wanna honor and acknowledge and like.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): celebrate you for sharing that because I feel like he'll heal something in me, too, you know. Thank you, Tommy.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hmm. anyone else?

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, there's a few folks that's your first time in the space. And so normally, what we do is practice a little bit like I guided us. Sometimes we'll journal or reflect before or after.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and and then we share, and then I'll address some of the questions that have come up. But yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Caroline.

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Caroline: thank you. Hi.

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Caroline:  yeah. I, too, was

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Caroline: really appreciative of

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Caroline: hearing about. You know.

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Caroline: this child, my child, is 12 now, and having a real struggle and just kind of like I was talking to them today about like your 15 year old self. you know, is going to be talking to, you know, like so just hearing

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Caroline: this 24 year old is lovely. And yeah. the joy for me this week has.

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Caroline: the relief of some boundaries that did work out. Okay. But but more, there was. This kind of it felt like this kind of weird surge of energy where to? Suddenly everything just felt so aligned. And I just really felt like the way I was communicating because I because I was really

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Caroline: aligned all the way through going. Now, this is really what I think. And this is, you know, like I. You know this. This is just genuinely what I think. And and this is how I want to lead you through this and and that felt very different to how it's felt for the last kind of 15 years. Really? So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you for sharing that. Caroline. Wow. yeah, that kind of inner wisdom and self trust.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it doesn't mean we can't have advisors right like I come here and I'm guiding the space right. So I share something helpful. But if I don't, I don't. But I also know, and I don't bear a responsibility for it in the sense that, or I feel responsible to creating a space. But I know we all are hold pieces of that insight and that wisdom, and that often it's about awakening our own and our wisdom.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I also see places where I can trust my own inner wisdom more and more deeply in parenting. For sure, and some other places in my life. So that that really resonated.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sonya, I don't know why. but I'm seeing that maybe you have something to share.

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Sonya Marquez: Oh, my goodness, you call me out! Yes, I do. I was a little late, and II said, I was thinking about

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Sonya Marquez: today and then forgetting that today was the day that I had the opportunity to speak to you and the community

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Sonya Marquez: because I haven't been able to be on. And this time. And so today, when I got the email, I'm like, Oh, my God! And of course driving kids. And so I felt badly that I'm late. So thank you for your patience, and thank you for welcoming me into this space. And I was just. It's

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Sonya Marquez: I find these are synchronous moments where? What you I just walked into, and the discussion was exactly what I needed to be hearing at this time. So I have been holding back with my

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Sonya Marquez: being being this space for them as well in the home, but also wanting to expand and go beyond, and not wanting to

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Sonya Marquez: is maybe not as open to receiving. And so I guess I wanna ask. and how would you? How would you start just with small groups, with friends, children of friends

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Sonya Marquez: kind of form format, a class that's kind of authentic but accessible to them express accessible. Everyone and my 3 happen to be athletes. But I don't wanna say athletes and exclude others. So I have a lot of questions around that I'm just trying to, as I think things like write them down kind of think of different ways to format. But I just need to start. I know I just need to start.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, no, that's great. I'm so glad you showed up. Also, II think I might have said this on another office hours. But my one of my teachers, my Yoga teachers, Trinity Capillary, who

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I love it. I also used to teach teams high. I taught high school, English and history. Then I taught middle school and elementary school, and so I've a lot of experience, sort of educationally with this age group. So I'll just share some insights there. I have not yet been a parent of a a teenager, so I also just wanna qualify because I have, though, taught my own child, but when he was much younger in a group of kids doing yoga after school.

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Sonya Marquez: great enough. Maybe I, honestly, I would probably start with 30 to 40. Yeah, yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): They get so few and they're so controlled and so restricted and so even like creating a little curriculum. I don't know you could do a 6 week, Yoga, that for athletes right or 8 weeks something like that you could have like, you know, things you're working on upper body, lower body, whatever you know. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): some of those things. We don't have to do it all at once. You don't have to take everything class Curator, right like that's not good. The stories about the gods and the goddesses.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to the high schoolers, to the elementary school. I did because they love to learn to to story, but in high school I talked a lot about like the the feats and the cities of the aesthetics, like the the meditators that can sit and melt the ice in places where, if we sat, we would freeze. You know, we get really cold, and they can melt. And they're like, Huh, like, huh!

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and to trust yourself, and goodness knows how many times I felt like a fool in front of those teams, you know. Make fun of me every day. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for listening and being part of this community. Yes, and thank you, I know, like, I get very excited about teaching kids. So I could talk to you about this all day.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But also we talk organically. So if you, you have questions as you come, and that's you know we're just gathered together, then you can share those in the chat, and it's also very welcome to just come and receive. And if you're here and you're like, I don't know, really know. Like, let let the nuggets of wisdom the one that's supposed to be there are ones like

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Justine Ferguson: Sorry. My ears perked up when she was saying she was working with the with the kids and everything. So

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Justine Ferguson: so I was. My calling had grabbed me, and so I apologize. If I missed that part.

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Justine Ferguson: may I add some 2 cents to that, too. please. Okay,

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Justine Ferguson: So I've worked with K. Through 12, but mostly with elementary middle schoolers, too. They'll always be honest with you.

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Justine Ferguson: having group agreements for safety, and then that are age appropriate, of course, and then that am the thing about the safe container. Safety is, the routines are very important. It's

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Justine Ferguson: Thank you. I had to say that. and if it was already repeated, I apologize.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so. I wanna transition to some of the questions in the in that we're sent in. And Bonnie said, after working through the Sentosa materials, I still feel like I could use a little more understanding or background on the relationship between contentment and the moon.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): contentment and the Guru mudra, or all 3, if they are connected also with reference to the moon and its energy. Should the Centosia Mudra, or Centosia Asana sequence be practiced at night. Ideally.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Ps. You can mention me by name, and I will be at work. Okay, no problem. So I wanted to give a bit of a detailed answer to this. Not just a a surface answer. And so let me pull up

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so where the connection comes from.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): something I want to connect with, but their understanding of the world was moonlight actually

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then that translates into Kappa, which I think is really powerful, because often in the Dosia system Kappa is like

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So let me stop sharing, and just look back at your question. Make sure, answered all the pieces for it.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So that's the connection between contentment and the moon with the Guru mudra.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because no one gets to determine your joy. But you right, and you, of course, from a yogic understanding, there's the little S self, and there's a bigger S self. So we're in a kind of harmony there. But there's a guru within.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So that's the connection there and then the question around, should you practice at moon at nighttime? It's gonna depend on who you ask?

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's always been the more ritualistic practitioners and teachers. And then there's always been the ones that are more on the like critical thinking and like internalize the ritual. So it's just you you don't need anything outside right? And so the answer I'll give you is more from that perspective. But I just wanna say, take it

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and check it by your own truth. If it helps you to practice at night, or to actually go out and receive the moonlight. Please do.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And my teacher said, We don't like when you we.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Great, you know. So so there's no absolute answer there. And then think I answered a question. Jackie asked where to begin to start to teach online to offer ceus like continuing education.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  what you would like to teach, and then continuing education, for what right cause? There's so many different paths, but particularly for Yoga. I think we're supposed to do 30 h every 2 years, maybe someone's more up to date on that cause. They changed it recently, but about 30 h of continuing education. So if you want to teach that, and you want it to specifically connect to say Yoga alliance, or

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you apply through their site, and I think you have to be a registered teacher of a certain level to then be able to offer ceus, and then you just set up a class register that class on on the site, and then people can get ceus for for taking your class.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): Hi, thank you for addressing that. Yeah, I've been teaching Yoga for a couple of years. I have my 500 h.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I do a lot with trauma, informed yoga and I love it, and about 6 months ago I broke my foot. So I've been kind of down.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I also do personal training. So I've I've contemplated doing

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I don't love that part of it, and II understand that there is, you know. There is the financial aspect of it, of course, but

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): so I'm seeing maybe this broken foot is a doorway to explore more and maybe being able to offer continuing education through Yoga, I'm a part of Yoga Alliance.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): but it feels overwhelming.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, okay. yes. So I definitely can answer this. And I want to just note, because we're almost at time. So I think, what I'm going to do

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): anyone who wants to stay. Can you say, Jackie? I can. Yeah, and it will be on the recording. If you can't is we'll formally close, and then so folks can feel comfortable to leave. And then I wanna just kind of break down the business side because I can't answer it. Well, in 2 min, and I wanna honor folks time. But I really really wanna try to do my best, offer you what I know to help set you up for for success, and it might help some other folks, too.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So so let's just take a moment and stretch.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and maybe noticing something else, giving you joy. And it could be anything.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Well, I'm actually seeing you probably can't see outside my window. But the trees are

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): little yellow little red. In California. We don't get the same kind of colors that you do other places sometimes, but

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then taking with you maybe on a ha or an insight from our time together today, you know, really wanna emphasize.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): please take care of you. It is not selfish to care for yourself.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): actually things that are self care. And when we practice those things that are self care. We are not only more joyful, but we're able to be there for our community, for our world. So I hope that

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I hope that that supports you as we move into this holiday time, some of us and yes, Carly, give from your overflow, not your depth. Yes.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And for folks who need to leave, I'll say goodbye

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I'm gonna say a few things. And then I'm gonna ask you some questions.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So any good business is always pretty much doing 2 things, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we can look at them at in our way and make them fit our integrity. But we're always marketing. and we're not always. But we have some way that we can sell right. There's something we can sell.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so at base you need a way of. And and I look at sales as a heart felt connection, conversation. Not that I like. I don't do these calls anymore. Where people get on the phone and they're like, Oh, I'm thinking about your ytt.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how can I support them and help them in their journey with Yoga, and if it is right, and if it's truly right for them to do the training, they'll do it. And if it's not or not now, that's totally fine.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that didn't matter, because what mattered to me was that the person left the conversation feeling more inspired, more hopeful, more empowered to deepen with Yoga wherever it took them, whether it took them into my training or not, and the moments, especially early on, when I was a smaller, really small business these moments. Don't go away, though. I just wanna be honest right. They go over a time that they come back, and it was like.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, my gosh! How am I paying my rent? You know I had to do the personal work to never.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on that person. So it's not fair. Then it becomes like it sounds a little bit like the space you are in is working transactionally. And when we're in Yoga, I think it's you know we have to charge. We're in a world where that's part of our world, you know.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of being clear that we're there to support. If it is right, they will join a program. If it's not, you know, more power to them. You'll give them whatever resources maybe send them to another program, whatever it is right.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So marketing and sales you can call them a different name. I like to think of those calls as like

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): part conversations, right? Or and then marketing is like letting people know what you do. And so a couple of basic things would be setting up a website. Having a place, we can deliver the class right, or let people know that you're delivering the class.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then having a payment gateway like a way that people can pay you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I love the idea of Ceus. I actually wonder if you should pursue Yoga alliance. And also you said, you're a physical trainer. Is that right?

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): It's kind of my whole thing. Sorry. My dog is just losing her mind over a box. It's kind of just the whole my whole basis is kind of. If if you think you can't do something. There's a way that you can. There's a there's always a way to feel better. There's always a way to work through

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): whatever horrible thing has happened is happening, there is always a way through it, and let's just find it. Let's just figure it out.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her):  so so I kind of blend things in in my day to day basis when I am working it kind of blend things. It's a lot to do with the personal training and the movement of muscle. And then there's a lot to do with

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Jackie, I love this. And and I just want to say, and yeah, folks, please drop your thoughts and suggestions in the chat, too. But first, please go back and watch this specifically everything you just said like, there's a way, you know, it's there's like that part needs to be on

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): your website wherever, everywhere you're sharing what you do because I heard that. And I'm like, because I've had a chronic Achilles entry, right? So like everyone in my life. We're all in our mid-forties to 50 s. Whatever. And so this stuff. Now, you know, we've broken things. We're dealing with things. When I was younger. There was stuff.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's so needed.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And the only thing really standing in the way, I think, between people not signing up and signing up is just knowing what you do and knowing how to work with you. And so

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm going to ask you in a second where it feels challenging or or where you're stuck. But my suggestion would be like focus on one or 2, maybe even just one thing, and it might be like the rehabilitation and the

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, having private clients, or it might be general classes for a particular issue, or it might be cause see? User for Yoga teachers. So then it's like educating Yoga teachers to teach on this, but you may or may not. You might want to start there. You also might cause you've already been doing the work, one on one. But you might want to start one on, or group with an issue like Yoga for mobility, or Yoga for back pain, or whatever the issue is.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or you could do it in tandem.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then you just need the site. You know the offer. And I would suggest for the deep kind of work you're doing. You can tell me how long, but not like a one off class. This is like a package, right? They're buying

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a series. And then maybe you have pricing that sliding scale, or it could be like, you know, community rate. Again, you you tell me. But say, it's a 6 week class.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that's 250 is the community rate. And then, like the actual rate, is 500, and the supporter rate is 7 50, you know, and you're meeting 6 times or something. And then they get video from you, plus the live calls. Whatever. However, you set it up.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you just set it up, make it so. People can understand what they get, and the timing and everything real easily, and then a way to pay you and and then you just enroll folks, and I usually give myself

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): minimum 3 weeks. But if II in a nice spacious launch of an online thing is like 3 months for me, you know, because it's it's some work to put all that together, and and then to share it with folks and figure out how.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I apologize.  questions. Where are you? Where are you in that? Is there any particular place you feel stuck?

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I think it's just that bridge like II have ideas on what I want to offer out, or what I have offered out, or what I'm confident in offering now.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): And I'm not at all in my comfort zone with any sort of online or the technology of it. Has been what's

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): held me back for a couple of years in this thought process.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): and I just want to kind of get over that fear. And I'm I'm trying to again see? Like, okay? Well, I broke my foot. Maybe this is another Avenue, and I don't want the universe to kind of shake me up so down. I want to see the graceful signs first.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): Totally. So I'm I'm

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): you know, deep rooted fear of failure, of course. But

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I guess just just bridging it together.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): you know exactly how to go about bringing it online. And and I, you know, I've done little things where I've gotten, you know. community groups or friends together. And

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): but I'll I always prefer to kind of go off, and I actually have one of my old clients who was asking if I was back to work. Yet. She's battling breast cancer at the moment, and she's like, I just wanna come in and lay on the mat and be in the space. And I said, I'm not there, but if you'd like to zoom, I will.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): So that was kind of like a you know thing. But I think

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): I yeah, just bridging that.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, okay, that's really helpful. So a resource I can drop in the chat right away, and I will look, for I had built out a whole series right when we went into the pandemic that was free that was on this is just a video that was like that digital divide like helping Yoga teachers go online.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And it has a list of resources on another sheet. Let me see if I can find it. It was like tech resources.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Tech recommendations. There it is for speaking online teaching online

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and and then the other thing would be, it doesn't have to be. I don't generally do one on one consulting

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But obviously, if someone from within

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yoga class curator needed, you know, from our community needed or wanted that, I'm happy to help. But there are people who you could

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like work with, or I'm sure maybe even folks who are teaching online that you like. I know, for example, Jacobi Ballard, who's a colleague who does a lot of teaching online.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): He does mentor sessions, or they. Joel has a setup process to do mentoring sessions, and they can walk you through their process. Right? So,

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah, Justine, it's a massive task of marketing and lack of executive function. Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yes, it can be. It can be really daunting. Think

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yes, it can be so Jacobi valor.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then dayjil patel so

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and again, you would. Just if you wanted to set up with me, you can just email booking at or hello at the emails that we send, you can just reply to cause this is something I do with folks. But but I also don't. Wanna you know, there's other folks out there who who do it, too. So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it is some work. But

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): really you're just making connections and helping people know how to connect with you and learn with you and setting up that process right? So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): did I drop the tech recommendations. No, I don't think. Oh, yes, I did. Okay.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I have to jump off because I have a mentor meeting with the mentors for the 300 h and 200 h that starting. So I need to head out. But I hope that gives you some great beginning things to think

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I would say a good like next step would just be. If people are asking you for something. then maybe

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): figuring out, Do you wanna do group? Do you wanna do one on one? Do you wanna do direct service to the people who have the need? Or do you wanna train teachers? And I would say, jumping to training teachers.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's it's good if you want to do it, and you feel ready for it. But that's a big leap like I did the direct service first for a long time before I started doing training teachers because they're gonna have lots of questions for you that you learn to answer through doing the direct service thing.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): now, that said, though, if you have teachers coming to you saying I need help. Help me learn how to teach, you know, in these ways. Then then, yeah, right? Like, if you haven't people in need, you set up a way to to serve them

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): definitely. Think what you do could be really, really successful and really impactful online.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Now, have I offered things where no one showed up or one person showed up? Absolutely have I done that even recently? Yes, you know what I'm saying, so there is no guarantee. You won't fail. In fact, there's probably a guarantee that you will fail. So just being okay, like, I cancelled an in person workshop

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this month. you know what I mean, like. there's no guarantees.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And yeah, that was a bummer.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it's okay. It doesn't mean I'm a bad person, or people don't like me, or people want to learn from. It just wasn't a good time. Wasn't you know what things in the line? And so, having that, whatever you need to do to get to that place where you're like.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe I'll do it, and it'll be a little messy, and it won't work that great. What if it does, you know, cool, and if it doesn't, it'll be okay, I'll just keep keep trying, you know.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just a lot of encouragement and support for you.

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Jackie Esposito-Newton (She, Her): Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that, and thank you for your time going over as well.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, of course. Jackie says I do. Cunning and consulting around. Yes, of course.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is so great. That's what we're here for. Is supporting each other. So yeah, exactly.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I know

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it's a I've come a long way to be able to say it without feeling like shame about it. I'm like, it's okay, you know. And I was lucky I had another teacher who I really looked up to tell me like not everything I put out there, Phil's, you know, and I was like, Oh.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): now I don't feel so bad, you know, so if I can do that for you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It it is a process. It is always trial and error. I almost feel like it's a video game of personal growth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And and you'll be helping folks, you know, along the way. So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I know at least 10 people who need what what you described you do. So yeah, I I'm excited for you, and I hope you get support

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and thank you all, and we'll see you. We'll see you next time we gather

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Sonya Marquez: alright. Thank you, everyone, thank you. Bye.