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Eliza (she her ella): Hello! Hello!

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hmm! Hello! And welcome. So good to see folks.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  thank you for being here to practice

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and to explore.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I wanted to begin with, some just some grounding practices.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I thought that we could maybe do A little bit of movement and a little bit of breath practice.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And the mudra that I wanted to invite us into today is your choice. This, if you'd like to do Mukala mudra like the small Bud. This might be, if you're like, there's something that you're creating or wanting to nourish

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this mudra or

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): another option would be Padma Mudra. So Lotus Mudra. So the heels of your hands touching pinkies, thumbs, and then fingers out.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So both connected. Right? Cause you've got the bud. and then you've got the flower.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and they are interconnected. as is the compost, the dirt, the earth, the challenges, the things in our lives that are.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that maybe are not always the ones we would choose.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But it's from those places that we can move into the bud of possibility, of courage, of

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I himself, Satya, of caring for ourselves and nurturing ourselves so we can bloom right? So they're not disconnected.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So all are welcome, and you can choose which. Madrid, you would like to hold right now.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Invite the bell. and we'll also be doing some movement and working with our breath.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, whichever mode you're holding invitation to lift that mudra up over your head.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then release your hands and let them come out and around.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): leaning over to one side, so one arm down could be resting on the earth, or on your hip, or on the chair, another arm up and over.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale, gazing up towards the ceiling the sky, your hands, and then exhale down towards the earth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and on your next inhale, lifting both hands up. holding that mudra again, whichever one you're holding.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then lifting it up towards the sky as an offering. and then switching sides. So other arm comes down opposite arm comes up towards the sky.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): breathing here.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just checking in. Maybe this side is a little more tight, or a little more

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): loose or open. I like to look down towards the earth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): look up towards the sky, and I also like to rotate my hand kind of like up and down

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): opening up, and the unusual spaces.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): One more breath here.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then inhale back up.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): both hands coming up above your head and then exhaling down to that mudra, either locally, Mudra were Padma mudra lotus mudra, or, if you prefer something else.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we'll do a stretch now as we twist one direction and then the other, and you can do this, seated, standing, lying down, your choice inhale, lifting that mudra up once again.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then exhaling, twisting to one side. One hand goes back behind you, the other hand can be resting on the shoulder, or your hip, or the chair and twist from your belly.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then your neck and shoulders.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then your chin, and then your eyes twist around last

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on your next exhale, softening just a little bit, and then twisting even deeper from your belly, so initiating the twist from your core.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhaling back on your next

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale, holding that mudra above your head, bringing it down right to your heart.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): taking a moment there to breathe and pause.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then this time inhaling, lifting your motor up and twisting to the other side from your belly. chest, shoulders, chin.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and even eyes

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): testing around last.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): softening your jaw.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And if you'd like once again on your next exhale, just gently coming out just a little bit.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then initiating that spiral from your belly. twisting up through your core your upper body and around

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): more breath here and inhaling both arms up. find in your mudra.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and bringing that Madrid into your heart.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): connecting to interconnectedness

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of the bloom, the bud, the compost

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): an option here to on your next inhale, lift your arms up and exhale, fold forward, and so you can fold over your desk or table.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): standing seated in a chair, maybe, or folding forward over your own body. reaching down, not worrying so much about.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You know how far you get, but just the energy of coming forward towards the earth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then on your next breath.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): me into a squat so so option to squat on your

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): legs if you're standing, or if you're on a chair, option to bring one leg up and maybe hold it in just a little stretch to the inner thigh with the other leg, or if you feel comfortable and like you can balance on your chair, you can bring both legs up and just kind of squat, but

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on your chair, or another alternative would be bringing one leg up and just kind of cradling it.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Holding that leg any any height doesn't really matter where where you are again. Here. We're just getting into some different muscle groups opening up

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hips in our thighs. And for some of us, if we're sitting a lot through the day. This can feel really supportive and nourishing.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then, if you're on one side releasing that side and opening into the other, if you're in a squat, and you're on the earth playing a little bit, lifting up one arm

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then the other, or moving from seated, or like a squatted squat up to a wide like standing squat right? So options

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): checking in with your body and the levels of heat or cooling that you would like

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And one more breath. Here.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we'll come back to inhaling our arms up. holding your mudra.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we'll do a little resting with pan am first, and so you have some options again, as always, you can lean back against your chair, so, letting your back rest against the terror behind you, you can lean against the wall.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you can lie down and let your back rest on earth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and you can also sit and let your spine elongate towards the sky.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): As you're there. You can hold that Mudra as we practice, or if you prefer that your habs rest anywhere on your body or on any supports around you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): including the earth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we'll breathe in

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and with our regular breath through our nose, and then breathe out in 3 small parts

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with a light and gentle kind of withholding or pause. It's very light. Sounds kind of like so it'll sound like this. Inhale, fully

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exhale. And third. next third final third

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale, fully exhale.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inhale.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exhale.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): continuing to breathe like this 2 or 3 more times.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): This is a pacifying breath, Veloma pranayama.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's used to diminish anxiety. It can help with stress to lower blood pressure, to bring ease and relaxation to your nervous system.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And anyone can do this breath the only contract indication would be if you feel uneasy, or don't feel good or feel like headed. Then please return to your own breathing. We'll all do

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 2 more like this long inhale.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then exhale 3 parts

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): through the mouth.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): last one together.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And now let your breath return to its own natural rhythm.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we'll rest here. So, allowing our minds, bodies, hearts, nervous systems, to integrate our short practice, and breathing

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so precious, to share space in silence. and so allow that the practice our shared community.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): your intention to nourish you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I'll guide us back with my voice in time.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): breath in. and a deep breath out.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and checking in with your heart.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): noticing this moment. If there's any ways you can practice Ahimsa, care for yourself.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): connect with your community

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and practice Ahimsa with those around you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then bringing your practice out into the world.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Maybe reflecting in this moment of any actions that you could take now or this week, or in the next

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): few weeks

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to close. We'll take the mudra.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): whichever you would like.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Chance.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): One of the shanty mantras.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Lopez, Samasta, Sukino Vavantu.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's a mantra that is

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): quite universal. Most spiritual teachings have some message like this in the Vedic

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): context. It's shared in Sanskrit, Polly, Maggie.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and practised in Jain, Buddhist, Hindu, so many different traditions. It's a universal wish for peace

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and for the relief of suffering. And we'll tant 3 times. first for ourselves.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): next for one person, specifically, someone else who could use some ease, some care, and then the last time you can choose a group, or a particular group of folks, or all beings.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and begin

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the deep breath in and a full breath out.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh, ka semester suki! No

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): lupa summer star. Sukino. but 1, 2,

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Celesta Sukino. 1, 2.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh. something something Shanti.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Oh.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you practice, you can take a moment to

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): orient yourself looking around, taking in form and shape and color.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And just wanna note, that was about 20 min of a little bit of Asana

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Mudra Panama mantra. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm interested to hear, maybe in the chat, or if anyone wants to share out loud.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if that.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): how that might have changed your state.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, it's such a challenging time in the world. There's so much happening that's just heartbreaking and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and like where I am sitting in my house.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's like if I didn't know the news. We didn't have social media like. There's there's beauty, and there's

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): challenges here, too, right at home and and all around me.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so I've been reflecting on how Yoga practices

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): help me ground, and they help me center so I can be a better kind of change, maker and solution, Creator in my environment and in the world around me, and then also in taking actions

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for the world beyond just my immediate where I am.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So yeah, just inviting in any chairs, any reflections in the chat or out loud.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Caroline says, Thank you. That was so resourcing. I feel much more settled. Yes, it's such a challenging time and so heartbreaking. I feel more resolved, more resource to be able to take action. And I also appreciate the intent invitation to offer the mantra to myself, one person and to others. Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. thank you. Thank you, Caroline. Anyone else.

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Jayce (she/her): Yeah. I feel really grateful for the opportunity to share the collective space. because I feel like one person alone.

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Jayce (she/her): I don't find the same sense of

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Jayce (she/her): peace. And

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Jayce (she/her): there's there's a definite felt sense of community here, and I really appreciate the collective practice.

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Jayce (she/her): Thank you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you, Jase. I noticed that as well like, it's easier to go deep in my meditation when we're all practicing together.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Katie. Second, sat Rachel. Feel so important to be centered, focused, and settled in relationship with self and community. Yeah, I mean, right now, it's what's it's devastating, too. Because I feel like we're like, we're arguing within ourselves and online and like feelings are so high and heated. And I even

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like someone sent an email like a general email. And I wrote back out of anger and frustration, and it's like, Oh, right

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like that's not helping anything that's not helping my like like meet my knee, jerk, response. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and yet there's so much to do right. There's always so much to do. There's so much suffering in so many places like it's it's

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): everywhere. And and maybe for some of us in our homes and our families, and ourselves right and and out in the world, you know, in Ukraine and in Afghanistan, with the earthquakes

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in Israel and Palestine right like. There's just no end to the suffering, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me it's very helpful to have a practice that brings me into that kind of inner alignment, so I can take the next

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): best step, the next most aligned step. And that's what I turn to.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I can act right, because I also think just saying like, I'm sending energy, and I'm sending light. I'm sending love like it's something. It's not nothing absolutely not nothing. But for me is like what are the aligned actions that I can take, and we may not all have, you know, even in the space where we share our yogic values. We may have different actions

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that are right for you as a leader, as a change maker, as someone sharing love and Yoga with the world. We may have different action steps to get to that shared value.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And and that's okay. Right? That's actually part of what it is to be a diverse group of of humans. and the practices help us

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): be our most aligned in integrity self.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So yeah, I'm looking at

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): notes, Bonnie, we've actually had a pretty challenging month as a family. I haven't even begun to deal with everything happening in the outside world. I've been in another Yoga community where we dive into the subject matter without practicing, it's been throwing me off. Thank you for the centering and the community. Yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I mean, so even from the early days like when I was a baby activist and spiritual practitioner like in my teens and twenties. I would gather with folks, and we were in person, you know, but it's same principles, I think. Apply. And we would always have spiritual space. First, we'd have spiritual space. We usually like do something else to nourish us maybe eat, and then we would organize and plan.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it would. It made everything flow. And we were also a very diverse group. You know, there were people who practice Efa different indigenous African practices, or people who practice Buddhism and Hinduism, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know Christianity and and Islam and Judaism like we were and are so diverse. And yet we would bring a practice that could be universally

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): experienced.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then move to the like. Okay, and what are we doing like for the bail fund that we need to create, or for you know, the fighting, the homophobia, whatever the thing was that we were working on.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I think that model

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): chat. So couple of these, I just wanna know if in case you're we've been at everything. I also mentioned in the last pilgrimage in Puja. But I do wanna answer it here because this is specifically office hours. And so the one of the questions was around.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's really harmful. My first business that I ever had wasn't incorporated, or anything, but I called it healthy, hot goddess right.

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Bonnie Abbott:  And I honor the spirit of it like I get the spirit of it, but the language around it seems extremely like you are a woman, and this is how you had defined your worth, and it a lot of times has to go with like boom energy. And so then it's like, Oh, I'm only useful as a woman. If my womb is functional. Or if I have a kid, you know what I mean, like, what are we trying to say? So I was hoping to find more resources in like, what does Yoga actually say?

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Bonnie Abbott: And not all the other voices out there. If that's making sense like, where? Where can I find like? What? Yoga? Actually.

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Bonnie Abbott: And it's patriarchy, right? But it's weird, because it's under this guise of female empowerment. But it then is. Yeah. So forcing that stereotype of like this is how you can be worthwhile in your home and your life. And whatever you're a nurturer, you're a caregiver, and it just ends up feeling really gross to me.

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Bonnie Abbott: just as a person. And again, like II know a lot of these people are coming from the best space in the world. But I'm I want to know what is actually yoga. So I can make sure.

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Bonnie Walker: So for my age group, there's also it's all Menopausal, too. So there's an an ageism thing that like. Now that you're in your fifties, you must be in menopause. And now you're a goddess, cause you're not using your wombs. So yeah, it's it's there's all these weird angles. And I had a friend who was calling her workshop

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Bonnie Walker: the goddess workshop, and somebody got offended that she was calling herself a goddess. So then she changed it to matriarch, and then I was like, Well, I don't want to be a matriarch. But yeah, it's it was interesting. Now that I'm in my fifties, everybody just assuming that I'm put reprod, I mean, and I am not gonna have any more kids. But I also

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yoga isn't really part of, but is because of the way that that capitalism works, and the way that Yoga is interpreted and understood in the West. And so there's this movement for this sort of I forgot now the words they use, but like the real man, right? Or like the masculine man. And then the woman in in our divine feminine leadership, the woman is supposed to

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and you've got your legs crossed. Can't really see me, can you? But your legs crossed, and so couple of options would be moving the skin out of the way like the flesh out of the way, and then also widening your stance. So you're kind of like on the the wide edge of your mat rather than close together. So let me go back so you can see. So here I might move the flesh of my thighs out of the way, lift it up.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then step over, and then, if there's not, it's not comfortable, or there's not space there. Then I would step my front foot forward. So I know in the video, I said, have your feet, you know, lined up next to each other, but they don't have to be. They can be. One can be up here online, could be up here right? So you're finding a way where there's space in your body. Like this, right like maybe

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Is that late? Later in the Yoga class curator, I'm on him. So yeah, it's the next one. So you'll get it. You'll get it next.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Say, you didn't want to do the shapes cross reference. You could still like, cross your arms on your body right, and maybe move or hat either side of your body. So there's ways to just stimulate the kind of what's happening.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Where am I right like getting our brains moving in that bilateral way that don't have to be cross-referenced. So those are some some options and some thoughts.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then the last question, was this, this might be too much for office for Ycc, that's great. Have you heard of the world? Yoga Federation? They're offering a lifetime. Yoga, teacher certification, no renewal fees

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then I also look for so like one of the schools I've trained at it. That's in India. Fiasa. I did an online training, but I would not go there in person. Because of sexual harassment and assault right because of knowing that that has occurred there, and not wanting to open myself up to to even being in that kind of environment.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): quality of the teaching, the experience of the student in that environment. So those are the things I look for when I go to to train or to learn anywhere. And just because something is Indian to me doesn't mean, you know, it has a stamp of approval. Right there, there can. There are

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): could be really cool, it could become a global alternative, which might be, you know, it's very much needed.

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Bonnie Walker: Yeah, yeah, I think it's worth keeping an eye on. And and yeah, and looking for all the things that you were looking for, I totally agree. So thank you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, absolutely

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so. Any any questions, anything on your mind or heart, any challenges with practicing or ways you want to explore

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pīkake: Hello! I'm Pekaki.

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pīkake: I have a question. Whenever I do Asana, it brings up a lot of

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pīkake: not physical pain, but emotional. And I was wondering,

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pīkake: like self soothing techniques

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pīkake: like while in Austin.

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pīkake: did it cut out at all?

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): No, I heard you. Yeah. You're wondering about stuff, sir, soothing.

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pīkake: Yeah, like I noticed that it helps me to stay like low to the ground. And I do like

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pīkake: like happy baby and child's pose. And I do the little Bingi cot where I like pull myself into myself.

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pīkake: I think another question I have is like.

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pīkake: does it get easier? I know with

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pīkake: emotional pain, like, you just have to move through it.

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pīkake: And so I'm just curious about yeah, specific poses for like self soothing

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pīkake: And then, like, I mean, like experiences that others may have related to this if they want to share

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pīkake: Mahalo. Thank you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thank you. And if folks can just raise your hand or drop in the chat, if you've also ever experienced that, and I know I have. So you're not alone

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and absolutely. There are practices that you know, self soothing practices, I think

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): often in our world we're told. If we're grieving or we're feeling pain so sort of like 10 up and pretend like we're fine. But it's the opposite of that right? It's like your intuition and the practices of poses that you're going towards or right on. It's the curl in the 10, the hold, the yeah. Like, for me, Balasana or on a pillow.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a lot of time on my belly, so like Salabasana locusts

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  I usually try to end with a guided meditation or guided relaxation, so I don't do it for myself. If I'm feeling a lot of a lot emotionally. I'll I'll turn on a

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): someone else's voice right through like a recorded meditation and and let that hold me. And then the other thing I would say is like, Yes, I think it does change, and and Yoga can bring up a lot

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for me. I've needed to bring in other resource providers so like for myself, I go to a therapist, and at times I've gone to like somatic experiencing

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): one on one. I also did some like I don't know even what you would call this, but someone who, like had me sound like make sounds while moving to help release

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what was there and and so and then Emdr, which is that like looking left and right or left and right stimulation right? So I was. Just gonna look up.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Think we have a list of therapeutic practitioners there? Let me see if I can find

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  that just to kind of put out there that that could be it could be helpful for moving through. For moving through like the things that Yoga brings up right? Cause it's bringing up something that's moved and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her):  I'm not sure that yoga alone.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): II just don't know, cause I've always I've utilized other modalities, and I have this this sense that for me Yoga alone wouldn't have been enough to shift what I was experiencing. But obviously we're we're all different. So I'm dropping that list.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): therapists and groups that offer online online therapy. So some individual therapists and then energy healing. There. So

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): let me look at what you said.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And I just want to say, yeah, like, I feel you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. Bonnie says, I experience it, too. Oh, in triangle. Hmm.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Rachel, crossing over the heart and giving gentle compression to my arms.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah, holding my hands on my heart and belly rocking, I find that so comforting. Yeah, yeah.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): upside down might help. Oh, interesting Laura!

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): External versus internal anchors coming back to things that are concrete in this moment. But I can touch here. See.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I spend a lot of time in child pose and on my side cuddle into a pillow. Yeah, with a blanket or sweatshirt or hood over my head. Yes, kind of think about it as like making ourselves a burrito, or like a sushi roll, you know, like really

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): close, close in Bonnie. Yes, it gets better. I spent a lot of time in Yoga classes curled up in a ball, but that was needed. Totally understand what you're experiencing, and you are not alone. Yes.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it does get better, and Yoga alone might not be enough. I'm still working through a lot related to why I left teaching Yoga so almost daily struggle with rage and despair on the mat. Oh, yeah, and I have a therapist.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Having your feet above your head can activate the parasympathetic nervous system. Yes, thank you.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then also, I do wanna say, like, if you're wanting not so much traditional therapy, you could do yoga therapy right like a yoga therapist would be able to work with you in terms of shapes and movement and practices that also

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I hope that's supportive and helpful, and I will be on November second. I'm gonna do a like a free community. I just feel like right now we need Yoga for grief and rage, you know, and

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so I wanted to offer a community-based Yoga retreat

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and, you're more than welcome to come. You'll probably see an an email come through about it. If you're on my list or follow me at all on social media

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): will be doing the practice that I just described, cause I've been doing it for myself. They wanted to offer it out for for others.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So we're at time

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): our lovely

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): office hours. I just feel always so nourished by being together with you all.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I wanna offer my deep, deep gratitude to each of you

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for being here, and also for your practicing in your life. And

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and maybe if there's one thing you're taking away, you can drop that in the chat, and then we can unmute and say goodbye. Yes, ma'am.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. Landed in my body. There's no need to push through. Feel the pain. Yeah. Invitation to go gently.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Connection, love.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): gratitude, breathe.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we can unmute and say goodbye and thank you so much to each of you.

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Bonnie Walker: Bye, everyone. Thank you, everyone.

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Caroline: Thank you very much.

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Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I know.

