WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hello, and welcome. Welcome! Welcome! 2 00:00:05.810 --> 00:00:11.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Creating you all on this beautiful Wednesday. 3 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:17.500 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I am in a classroom at Usc. Which is college campus. 4 00:00:17.770 --> 00:00:23.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): not far from where I live now, and I just wanna double check. Can you hear me and see me? Okay. 5 00:00:24.850 --> 00:00:35.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): cool. So I'm taking a workshop that my friend Patrice Colors is putting on. That's all about theater of the oppressed and transformative 6 00:00:36.060 --> 00:00:58.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): justice and experience. And it's an all day workshop. And so I was like, yes, Patrice, I can come and I will pop out do office hours and then flow back in. And you're not gonna believe the theme. That was the theme of the workshop. And so I just wanna kind of bring that energy right in, because sometimes 7 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:02.889 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I mean all the time there are no accidents right like. 8 00:01:05.019 --> 00:01:15.719 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I wanna just invite us to take a moment and reflect on. If there's been any synchronicities or themes that have shown up for you. 9 00:01:15.730 --> 00:01:18.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you can drop them in the chat. 10 00:01:18.880 --> 00:01:34.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Could be themes that have come up. Maybe a phrase or a sentence, or a teaching that has emerged in your life recently could be something, you know, like an experience like seeing hummingbird it. 11 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:41.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): 2 different moments or a pivotal moment could be a phrase or a teaching. 12 00:01:41.330 --> 00:01:49.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but in invitation to drop those in in the chat, and we'll just take a moment, and then I'll I'll guide us in so you can 13 00:01:49.420 --> 00:01:54.039 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): place your hands on your heart, or anywhere else you would like your body. 14 00:01:59.940 --> 00:02:01.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and as you breathe 15 00:02:03.060 --> 00:02:04.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): grounding yourself. 16 00:02:21.600 --> 00:02:23.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and if you find yourself 17 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with your mind wandering. We're exploring. 18 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:37.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Let me just going with that, not not needing to contain or to control. 19 00:02:43.160 --> 00:02:46.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): letting your mind wander. 20 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:48.859 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): perhaps be a little wild. 21 00:02:55.070 --> 00:02:56.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then 22 00:02:56.860 --> 00:03:01.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): feeling into your body? Is there a movement, or a shape. 23 00:03:02.530 --> 00:03:08.440 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or a gesture that your body has been wanting to make? So allowing 24 00:03:08.500 --> 00:03:17.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that to happen now might be not a yoga shape, you know. Maybe just kind of a movement or rotation of your head around on the neck. 25 00:03:21.330 --> 00:03:25.389 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): stretching one way and the other 26 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): opening yourself up through movement, through breath. 27 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to the magic of chance 28 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:56.890 Carly Joelle: to inspiration 29 00:03:58.660 --> 00:03:59.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): wherever 30 00:04:00.230 --> 00:04:03.690 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it might find you, wherever it might take you. 31 00:04:11.460 --> 00:04:17.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and that might look like in this moment. I'm not really sure. I don't know where I'm going, or 32 00:04:17.510 --> 00:04:29.220 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I haven't really felt particularly inspired recently, or it might feel like. Oh, yes, I know exactly where and how I'm gonna connect to inspiration and intuition. 33 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:37.730 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But one thing that's true and clear for all of it, whether you know or you don't know. the invitation 34 00:04:37.910 --> 00:04:43.979 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to Sabcha to a purity of intention, a cleanliness 35 00:04:44.110 --> 00:04:45.470 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of intention. 36 00:04:45.780 --> 00:04:49.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and a paragrapha, and letting go. 37 00:04:49.490 --> 00:04:51.480 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): are always welcome 38 00:04:53.450 --> 00:05:00.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to bring in that quality of doing every action you must do, wishing every wish. 39 00:05:00.960 --> 00:05:07.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): experiencing every experience, and then letting go of the attachment to what it looks like 40 00:05:08.210 --> 00:05:10.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): letting go of control. 41 00:05:13.370 --> 00:05:15.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): surrendering to 42 00:05:15.890 --> 00:05:19.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): let the yoga move through. You teach through you. 43 00:05:34.130 --> 00:05:36.499 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and feeling into the way that 44 00:05:37.500 --> 00:05:39.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): not in this like 45 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:46.949 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): punitive way or petty way. But we're so so small, right our little at self. 46 00:05:47.550 --> 00:05:49.290 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): little Susanna. 47 00:05:49.430 --> 00:05:57.149 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): little Carly, little Michael, little Karen, Jennifer Andrea, whoever all you know your name right, little S. 48 00:05:58.070 --> 00:06:01.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): In connection with the greater self 49 00:06:01.070 --> 00:06:03.830 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): with everyone, everyone here. 50 00:06:04.460 --> 00:06:10.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): everyone connected to the heart and the essence and spirit of Yoga, and all beings 51 00:06:12.260 --> 00:06:13.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): oneness. 52 00:06:16.580 --> 00:06:21.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so our little dreams, our little desires, our wishes. 53 00:06:22.820 --> 00:06:30.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): How can we not need to just get out of the way? So oneness can move through us, so the needs of 54 00:06:30.570 --> 00:06:33.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): all can be served through us. 55 00:06:39.650 --> 00:06:50.539 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So maybe for me, it kind of shows up as a little bit of a laugh like a not a mean laugh, or a mocking laugh at myself, but like a sweet laugh like Susanna. You thought you 56 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:56.209 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you thought you had a plan. You thought you knew what you were doing right? Right? Right? 57 00:06:56.410 --> 00:06:59.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Just remembering like it's okay 58 00:06:59.790 --> 00:07:08.220 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or Oh, Susannah, you totally don't know what you're doing. I no clue right now. Completely lost like you thought you had it and really don't 59 00:07:08.460 --> 00:07:14.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like, oh, yeah, it's okay. There's interconnection. There's 60 00:07:14.580 --> 00:07:16.720 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): other wishes, other dreams 61 00:07:17.770 --> 00:07:21.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to respond, to, to, connect, to, to be 62 00:07:24.080 --> 00:07:28.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): nourished and void, and supported by and with and for. 63 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:39.419 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So we'll breathe together few more moments. 64 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:56.119 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): seeing if there's any communication, any message for you. 65 00:07:57.470 --> 00:07:59.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): inspiration for 66 00:08:04.380 --> 00:08:06.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): bringing in or letting go. 67 00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:18.859 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and remembering, too, with Yoga, as we 68 00:08:19.130 --> 00:08:23.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): gently move to reintegrating back into our 69 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:29.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): extra meditative interactive space 70 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:31.029 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that in Yoga there's no 71 00:08:31.180 --> 00:08:36.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): sense of lack. There's no sense of humitive like not enoughness. 72 00:08:36.950 --> 00:08:41.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You can start to move and maybe look around the space that you're in 73 00:08:42.700 --> 00:08:48.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so helpful sometimes like these practices we do. And I'm like, right. I'm in a 74 00:08:48.970 --> 00:08:51.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): college classroom with. 75 00:08:52.560 --> 00:09:00.549 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, lockers and sound boards like, I wonder what even happens in here. And 76 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:02.680 as we're 77 00:09:03.410 --> 00:09:10.789 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as we're coming back to this space, you know often the the framing that a lot of our in the West 78 00:09:11.020 --> 00:09:13.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): from our religious kind of backgrounds and upbringing 79 00:09:14.850 --> 00:09:23.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): for some of us. And even if we don't have those kinds of religious backgrounds and upbringing. It's part of the culture that we're in and the air that we breathe through 80 00:09:23.510 --> 00:09:27.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Cartesian dualism and kind of mechanistic thinking. This idea 81 00:09:27.610 --> 00:09:29.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that we have to earn 82 00:09:29.810 --> 00:09:34.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): being good or feeling good, that we have to earn being 83 00:09:34.700 --> 00:09:49.330 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): being saved or being valued rather than from a yolk perspective. We're already inherently good and worthy, and that the things that get in the way we're working through the practice to clear off. 84 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.249 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so, instead of 85 00:09:52.180 --> 00:10:11.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): working so hard to like. Do the yoga get on the mat? Do the practice, or teach to the practice so perfectly or so? Well, it's like our students already know, right? Like our if we're teachers, our students are already full and good and perfect, and we just need to kind of get out of the way 86 00:10:12.300 --> 00:10:14.709 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to let the Yoga come through 87 00:10:15.370 --> 00:10:25.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): us rather than teach it. so they can have that experience of their own. their own wholeness, and same for us sometimes we. 88 00:10:25.150 --> 00:10:27.620 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): as as the teacher student. 89 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:33.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): need to get or get to get out of the way, so Yoga can move through us and 90 00:10:33.710 --> 00:10:35.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and remind us of who we already are. 91 00:10:37.890 --> 00:11:03.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So coming back to the space, maybe wiggling, doing whatever you need to do. I'm still taking in like it's been a while at school campus and the college campus and I'm also like in a workshop, I was saying to folks who just came on taking a workshop at my friend Patrice invited me to. That's an all day workshop on theater, the oppressed like movement, justice, healing work. 92 00:11:03.830 --> 00:11:10.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so I snuck out of the workshop to to 93 00:11:10.170 --> 00:11:16.929 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): come and be with you all, and the themes of the workshop really deeply connect to the things that came up that folks wanted to talk about. 94 00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:18.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 95 00:11:18.180 --> 00:11:38.900 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm in a classroom space that's just like down the hallway. So you know, there's a little bit of playful unpredictability. What may have someone like come in and have a class. We may have to move to the hallway, so just naming that. And the invitation, too, is to pay attention to 96 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the synchronicities. 97 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:45.689 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we played with this a little bit in our pilgrimage in puja earlier this month. 98 00:11:45.790 --> 00:11:47.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Or what month are we? 99 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:58.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't even know what day it is. I'm realizing it was this month is the end of last month. Yeah. So end of last month. Thank you. 100 00:11:58.490 --> 00:11:59.610 And 101 00:12:01.230 --> 00:12:16.399 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in the workshop that I'm in the themes that were coming up for the connection of spirituality and social justice, the interconnectedness of African spirituality, particularly Indian spirituality, the teachings of Vivekananda. 102 00:12:17.540 --> 00:12:27.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a Universalist kind of spirituality where we don't, you know, though we may work on material change to change the conditions 103 00:12:28.350 --> 00:12:39.069 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of our existences or other folks existences. There's also our spirits, and it's here where Yoga starts right? It meets us at that that spiritual place. 104 00:12:40.750 --> 00:12:52.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and particularly one of the questions that came in was about Soucha and about the idea of such as impurity or cleanliness, and on a material level. It's like 105 00:12:52.450 --> 00:12:55.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): physical clearing of the space 106 00:12:55.370 --> 00:12:57.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): clearing of the schedule. 107 00:12:57.690 --> 00:13:04.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So you have time and space to practice clearing of clutter clearing away distractions. 108 00:13:06.430 --> 00:13:07.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 109 00:13:07.540 --> 00:13:21.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's not just on a physical level, right? It's also Soucha, internally clearing away or allowing there to be a kind of purity of intention. But we often take purity 110 00:13:21.250 --> 00:13:23.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to come with a good, bad. 111 00:13:23.420 --> 00:13:25.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a kind of like 112 00:13:26.260 --> 00:13:32.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of jet, like the Judgment Day, or judgment of ourselves as practitioners or as people. 113 00:13:32.650 --> 00:13:34.819 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and from a yogic perspective. 114 00:13:35.410 --> 00:13:43.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know, there wasn't that sense of judgment, that sense of like you have done wrong or you have sin. Sin is not a concept that exists 115 00:13:43.460 --> 00:13:45.620 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in in ancient Vedic top. 116 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:48.969 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It was like you messed up that 117 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:58.239 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): practice or the action led you away from your focus or your goal of liberation, or of peace or of power. So 118 00:13:58.340 --> 00:14:02.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): try again right? Come back. It's a very affirmative 119 00:14:02.900 --> 00:14:09.999 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): frame. It's a frame, a framing and ontology, a way of looking at at the world that looks at us as 120 00:14:10.310 --> 00:14:24.540 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): already whole, already perfect, already complete, and that we make choices and actions away from that. Of course we do. But we're human, and that's we always have. Humans have always done that. And we just get to come back to come back to come back. 121 00:14:24.640 --> 00:14:37.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I wanna pause there and just see if there's any other questions or thoughts on since that theme. That was one of the the main themes looking into the office hours, questions to make sure I 122 00:14:37.590 --> 00:14:41.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): answered that. And yeah. 123 00:14:42.110 --> 00:14:45.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hmm! 124 00:14:46.550 --> 00:15:00.320 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And and the question also asked about resources, I would say again, I think I think Vivekananda, who I mentioned earlier is a great resource for exploring and a lot of those who write about 125 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.409 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the connection between Christianity and 126 00:15:03.630 --> 00:15:07.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and Vedic thought or Yogic thought. 127 00:15:08.100 --> 00:15:11.379 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): because there's a way that you know. 128 00:15:12.390 --> 00:15:19.340 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I'm not a Christian theologian. So I want to be careful here. But II do want to say that I think there's many 129 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:24.759 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): writers who I've read who say the essence of the teachings of, say Jesus, are 130 00:15:25.430 --> 00:15:40.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): of absolute unconditional love, and so they are in many ways in great connection with Yogic philosophy and Yogic thought, and the way that institutions or individuals have interpreted those teachings puts on the judgment or puts on the lack 131 00:15:40.950 --> 00:15:58.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): puts on the sin that that the teachings themselves in their essence in many ways connect. And so there's a lot of wonderful teachings about that, and particularly for folks who are maybe coming from a Christian background or Catholic background, who have had a lot of the more 132 00:15:58.390 --> 00:16:00.370 kind of punitive framing. 133 00:16:00.590 --> 00:16:06.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Think there can be a lot of liberation found in. 134 00:16:06.340 --> 00:16:07.460 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 135 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:23.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): those writings and those teachings of the connection to the essence of we're already whole already. Good. We're already complete and perfect and wonderful. And any of the practices are just reminding us of that or getting us back to that. 136 00:16:23.650 --> 00:16:25.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm gonna stop talking. 137 00:16:25.470 --> 00:16:28.769 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): See if anyone wants to share in the chat or out loud. 138 00:16:45.300 --> 00:16:46.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Hi, Katie. Yes. 139 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:50.930 Katie she/her: Can you hear me? 140 00:16:51.000 --> 00:17:02.200 Katie she/her: Yes, I can. Okay, sorry my video is not working. I mostly am saying, thank you for talking more about that. I'm really grateful. Also that you 141 00:17:02.470 --> 00:17:18.140 Katie she/her: kind of started talking about the implications, because when you pointed it out, it was one of those things that I was raised in a in a Christian background. And so I was thinking about it in the binary way, without even realizing I was doing that. 142 00:17:18.650 --> 00:17:30.380 Katie she/her: And I to me the implications like, I'm just kind of like making all these connections. I feel like. So thank you again for allowing that to happen, because what I'm thinking about is how. 143 00:17:30.750 --> 00:17:36.620 Katie she/her: even if you are thinking about it in the binary way without realizing it. Or if your students are. 144 00:17:36.670 --> 00:17:41.040 Katie she/her: then it's such a. It can be such a tool of control. 145 00:17:41.210 --> 00:18:00.369 Katie she/her: because then the arbiter of what is good. You know the one who's setting the standard and defining it. You're just constantly wearing yourself out working for that. And it is same based. So it's a totally different motivation and starting place, so that I feel like it changes everything. 146 00:18:00.500 --> 00:18:06.090 Katie she/her: and that feels really exciting to me to be more conscious of. And also 147 00:18:06.230 --> 00:18:26.309 Katie she/her: again, it's cool, because in throughout the your class Curator, you have, I feel, like, been teaching us that without necessarily explicitly naming it because you talk a lot about how you can just return. You know you get off track. You can just make a step to return to that. And so it's like that practice of even 148 00:18:26.540 --> 00:18:29.190 Katie she/her: practicing it differently has been really helpful to me. 149 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:36.770 Katie she/her: So I don't know that I have another question necessarily, but just wanted to share that. I've been thinking about that concept a lot. 150 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:51.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you so much, Katie, and and I think one of the things that you made me think about when you were speaking. Is many of our students come into our classrooms right for those who teach again, formally or informally, or into our spaces. 151 00:18:51.720 --> 00:19:08.769 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and they're bringing that shame. And I think, particularly Yoga, that can be a place of a lot of shame, right? A source of body shame, a source of what our bodies can or cannot do, what they look like flexibility. All of these things are nothing to do with what Yoga is, and we might know this. 152 00:19:09.380 --> 00:19:33.930 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but we also may need reminding ourselves, and our students will likely need reminding, and they may be coming in with like, oh, I haven't practice yoga for a month, you know, or a year, or whatever, and we might to be in front of the class, or, you know, in the community and having that feeling of like, I'm an imposter. I'm an imposter, and and I think a lot of these things that undermine our sovereignty 153 00:19:34.290 --> 00:19:51.240 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): come from these binary good, bad, right, wrong. You know I did it. I didn't do it when the truth is, it's so much more nuanced, and it's so much more gray, you know. And and even when I think about the teachers who I've learned from who 154 00:19:51.300 --> 00:20:01.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I, you know, like certain of them, I would say they're pretty. They're on their way, you know, half baked to fully break baked like realized masters. For example, Techno Han Shankaji. 155 00:20:03.570 --> 00:20:24.729 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): they're so flawed. They're so human, you know, and they're and and there's ways that they're teaching, certainly by their actions and by who they are, and also by understanding and recognizing their flaws by naming them by not pretending that they're they're perfect. So they always make the right choice and 156 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:26.990 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so I think that 157 00:20:27.470 --> 00:20:40.389 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): humility that we can bring to like part of Sacha is also unpacking a perfectionism of purity, right like of the right way, or the only way to do things. 158 00:20:40.420 --> 00:20:56.830 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and part of our practice can be unpacking that perfectionism for ourselves and for our students. So thank you so much, Katie, for for bringing that. Yeah. And Karen. Punitive religious impact feels like one more element of trauma brought to Yoga practice breathing. Yes. 159 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:09.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): also. Just name, you know, being raised Hindu. It's not just Christianity. It's it's also there, in different Hindu 160 00:21:09.990 --> 00:21:13.269 practices, different ways in lineages 161 00:21:13.280 --> 00:21:16.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that Yoga's practice, this more kind of religious. 162 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:22.980 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): rigorous or rigid, or one right way of doing things. 163 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:29.010 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and part of what I think is a little bit radical and revolutionary. And what we're doing is 164 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:46.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we're aiming to return to that. The essence on the heart of what Yoga is through yogic values which sometimes rubs up against these institutions, including Yogic ones, right? Like there are schools of thought today there always have been these different perspectives 165 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:55.259 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that say there is one right way, and that you should be doing your Saturday. Xyz. These things, you know, a certain number of hours whatever. And 166 00:21:55.270 --> 00:22:03.649 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then there always have been practitioners that said, No, there's that's not how this works. It's about embodying it. It's about living it. And 167 00:22:03.690 --> 00:22:08.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): actually, let's internalize the experience of all of that. Sad enough. 168 00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:11.129 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So we can be it right? So it's not 169 00:22:11.170 --> 00:22:16.170 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's not just Christianity. II don't wanna 170 00:22:16.790 --> 00:22:38.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): What's the word? Like? Point finger at only one particular religion. I think a lot of the time, only coalesce as human beings around a particular doctrinal way of practicing it can lead to that, whatever the name that we give it, you know and within all the different religions. There's there's those who practice more 171 00:22:38.500 --> 00:22:41.949 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): more kind of like with a looser grip and a more spiritual 172 00:22:42.020 --> 00:22:46.289 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): way rather than a tight kind of controlling way. 173 00:22:46.770 --> 00:22:57.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, political impact on spiritual practices also brings trauma and threats to sovereignty. One of the many reasons I appreciate your decolonize your good teaching, Susanna. Thank you. Ken. 174 00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:00.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yes, anyone else 175 00:23:01.870 --> 00:23:03.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): on this theme 176 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:25.370 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we had 1, 2 other questions, so I'll get into, but also just saying, Have some spaciousness, or if let's have other things you want to bring in, or like the beginning, for folks who just came in and sorry for is a little 177 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:27.799 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): creaky, and I'm I'm a 178 00:23:27.970 --> 00:23:31.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): body talker, so I move. Let me see if I can move 179 00:23:32.140 --> 00:23:35.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): creaky spots. Yes, it's better. 180 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:41.389 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the beginning. We were talking about those. 181 00:23:41.430 --> 00:23:42.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the theme of 182 00:23:45.010 --> 00:23:47.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): interconnections, and 183 00:23:47.690 --> 00:23:50.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that truth of spiritual. 184 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:55.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like spiritual existence and energy that sometimes shows up through 185 00:23:55.810 --> 00:24:04.070 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): through coincidences or through themes that arise. And so one of the themes that arose in the workshop I was in is 186 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:08.919 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is surrender is aparthe and practicing 187 00:24:10.260 --> 00:24:12.629 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): spiritually right, like 188 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:19.369 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Sometimes there can be in certain movement spaces, or social justice spaces this idea. That 189 00:24:19.410 --> 00:24:24.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of spirituality, or or saying things are complicated or complex. 190 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:40.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is the cop out like we have to be down for the cause we have to be like, really clear and solid. And and that is, there's ways that it. It is both true, right. Both both are part of the way that change gets made. 191 00:24:41.170 --> 00:24:58.220 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So just bringing in coincidences and chance encounters. And Nana said, the word pilgrimage has kept emerging for me. I feel this is very true to where I'm at in my life right now, and I love that the other thing I really hope you get from Yoga class curator 192 00:24:58.220 --> 00:25:17.680 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is that we can pilgrimage. And Jeremy, it seems like this. Come right to you. We can pilgrimage by taking a major, you know action or moving to going somewhere physically, like the Santi, you know, Communal des Santiago is a pilgrimage right? Like going to the Himalayas is can be a pilgrimage. 193 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.339 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The pilgrimage can also happen. 194 00:25:20.530 --> 00:25:36.410 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Our home in our backyards, in our minds, in our lives we can take every action as a sacred step, and we can relate to the mountains, the rivers, the lakes around us, as places of sanctity, of sacredness, and we 195 00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:39.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we have access to that 196 00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:50.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): through our choices. And so I love that that word is is resonating for you. It is for me, too. I just took a pilgrimage to somewhere that to me feel like the 197 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Himalias of the West, which is Yosemite. And I was very, very 198 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:56.330 moved. 199 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.660 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): just so transported by being in nature there. 200 00:26:02.580 --> 00:26:03.450 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Jeremy! 201 00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:07.900 Jeremy: Hi! 202 00:26:08.040 --> 00:26:15.140 Jeremy: And Hi, everybody! I had a few comments on the things you've been bringing up here regarding 203 00:26:15.560 --> 00:26:24.600 Jeremy: interconnectivity and various religious practice, and how it intersects with Yoga, and also just sort of overlaps with and 204 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.080 inhabits Yoga really, in some ways. 205 00:26:28.230 --> 00:26:36.490 Jeremy: So I was raised in a various religious background. But I do. Have. I have done some study of metaphysical Christianity, and 206 00:26:36.640 --> 00:27:00.190 Jeremy: there's a little bit of a difference there, because, you know, Christianity can really run the gamut from like images of hellfire. And what you're doing wrong. And all this right, what you could be doing right to in metaphysical Christianity. One talks about being in one's Christ self, which is a Co. Creation with God. Right? So this has a lot of intersection with Yoga 207 00:27:00.290 --> 00:27:13.420 Jeremy: and one thing I wanted to say is that for me, when I fall off the the mark and the definition of sin I've heard many times in Christianity, and otherwise being missing the mark, you know, just missing the mark. 208 00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:40.410 Jeremy: And so what you were saying about how you know Yoga, from the Vedic times has approached. It's like, Well, okay, you messed up, you know, like, Get back on right. And I find Yoga to be so ever present and soft and accepting when I'm coming back to it, and it could be that I'm in a yoga practice. But you know, maybe I haven't done any mudra lately, or something, you know, or maybe my Java practice has fallen off, and I go back to it, and it 209 00:27:41.120 --> 00:27:50.889 Jeremy: envelops me each time in a way which is very yeah. You're here. You're here again. You recognize this, you know. And so I just wanted to say that that 210 00:27:51.210 --> 00:28:17.880 Jeremy: I think anyone from anywhere it could be, you know, a death row inmate who decides to, you know, turn to meditation or to breathwork or something. It could be someone in a hospital bed. It could be a nurse at a hospital, you know, who who decides to incorporate Yoga in their life. And the thing is that there's always gonna be more yoga right behind that right next to it. But also yoga's always there, you know, just it's like. 211 00:28:18.600 --> 00:28:47.539 Jeremy: I don't know. That's that's kind of what I have to say. One of the practices I've been doing lately is reading from sacred text. I've been reading from the Rig Veda, and I decided to just flip through and find all the references to Don or U.S.A. in the in the Rig Veda. And the reason I'm doing this is to it's a morning practice for me to read it out loud. And it's similar to my Java practice. When I am chanting, or a reading, or singing or humming. 212 00:28:47.560 --> 00:28:49.060 Jeremy: I find that 213 00:28:49.400 --> 00:29:14.569 Jeremy: it's like my higher power. My, you know, conception of God is there, and filling up my chest cavity and my nasal cavity, and makes me feel like I'm getting a hug from the inside. So to have this, I've been having a bit of a challenging time lately, and so adding this reading to my practice has really helped me to open up to, you know, some of the oldest conceptions of dawn and the moving from. 214 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:28.489 Jeremy: if they call it darkness to light. But it's night today, you know, and and it really talks about how there've been so many dawns before, you know and how it does it. It genders Dawn as a goddess right? Which 215 00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:41.230 Jeremy: to me it doesn't feel, you know, as a gender queer person that doesn't feel wrong because each of us has our own conception of our self and our own identity with things. So 216 00:29:41.340 --> 00:30:02.840 Jeremy: you know, whereas I don't have to decide to gender the moon every time I talk about it. If I'm reading from the Rigveda, and it's gendering something as a goddess I can identify with this goddess, you know. If I choose. And so, or if I'm able, or you know, in my own able being in, if it's within my own conception of myself to identify with, that's what I mean. 217 00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:15.890 Jeremy: There is a little bit of problematic language in there, though, and so II am currently looking to find new definitions of words so that I can replace some of the problematic ones as I recite this. 218 00:30:15.940 --> 00:30:18.580 Jeremy: So that's that's what I got today. 219 00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:30.320 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Thank you so much, Jeremy, for reminding us to of. I feel like it's is for Pani Donna. And 220 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.339 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you know that deep inquiry into text and study, and also 221 00:30:37.060 --> 00:30:53.930 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): into remembering that the text are written down, and the translations are given through human experience and and limited human experience. And so I really appreciate you looking into like other translations and other words, and 222 00:30:54.060 --> 00:31:00.020 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): once that resonate is more laboratory. I do feel like a lot of the text, for one thing. 223 00:31:00.310 --> 00:31:04.199 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): A lot of the texts on Yoga aren't translated yet 224 00:31:04.290 --> 00:31:07.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): into English. You know they're they're on 225 00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:30.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): actual like leaves or on paper. Bark, and in languages like Maggie. Or you know de different regional languages, some of which there are people who live in still speak and can potentially translate, and some of which there are no one who speaks those languages. So we only have 226 00:31:31.280 --> 00:31:36.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a very small portion of your text that we're working from. 227 00:31:36.610 --> 00:31:37.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 228 00:31:38.030 --> 00:31:44.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): those texts themselves. And the translations are are problematic. And so it's almost like we need a revision. 229 00:31:44.520 --> 00:32:02.149 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And this to me goes back. Someone asked a question. And I wanna just read it because it's connected so much to what we're saying. I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences around connecting to a particular Yogic lineage or Guru Guru teacher. 230 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:06.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Until recently, I've lived in remote places and not had easy face-to-face training. 231 00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:17.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Easy access to that. So a lot of my training has been online. I've studied Yoga, with a number of different teachers, become more aware of making sure acknowledgement of lineage is clear. 232 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.340 and I've found that what I've learned is from a few different languages. 233 00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:24.849 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and through her or their own meeting and study. 234 00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:35.500 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I've enjoyed learning from these different lineages, but I worry sometimes whether it's problematic to be drawing from different ones, and that I worry about causing confusion or misappropriation. 235 00:32:35.770 --> 00:32:47.719 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I do try, wherever possible, when I'm sharing Yoga with others, to point out for particular practice comes from particular teaching or lineage, but I'm not sure if that is an adequate way to manage this. 236 00:32:48.180 --> 00:32:57.419 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So I really appreciate this question, and I think it connects to some of the complication and the complexity that you're describing, Jeremy, because 237 00:32:57.970 --> 00:33:14.240 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there there is this very dogmatic kind of like you. There is a framing, and it is quite prevalent in many contemporary Yoga spaces in India, and has been, I would say, for maybe a couple of 100 years of 238 00:33:15.330 --> 00:33:18.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): have one lineage. Have one teacher completely 239 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:20.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): kind of 240 00:33:20.330 --> 00:33:34.090 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): subsume your own will to that one teacher, and that one lineage, and put aside critical thinking. Put aside, you know, questioning and just follow the teachings of that lineage, and that teacher, and 241 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:50.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): one that rubs up against a few things. One is the actual practices and teachings of Yoga, the tenants right of sovereignty of, but also in many ways like a Western kind of view of critical thinking. 242 00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:52.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 243 00:33:52.470 --> 00:34:03.150 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): also, I would say, in Indian view of critical thinking, which has always been there too, and trauma informed practice. And so 244 00:34:03.410 --> 00:34:09.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it's complex. Because while we're saying, acknowledge the lineage right, acknowledge the root 245 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.299 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and the source of these practices. There may 246 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:23.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): it may not be one, it may not be one just one teacher, it may be that you're drawing from different teachers and teachings. I think that's that is one of the kind 247 00:34:24.050 --> 00:34:45.099 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): conditions that we find ourselves in is those of us who perhaps have had one singular teacher have gotten disillusioned with that teacher with that lineage because of abuse in the lineage, and maybe because of lack of transparency around that within our lineages, because that has been so common. 248 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:47.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then. 249 00:34:48.230 --> 00:34:52.209 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if we're taking and connecting from these different 250 00:34:52.310 --> 00:35:13.879 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): teachings and different teachers. It's like, how do we know what's right? Especially when you know you got verdant and advice of Adonta? It's like dual and non dual. What? What's the answer right like, what is it? Is it one, or is it? Is it one, or is it 2? And and there whole, like schools and practices and teachings. And you know, teachers 251 00:35:14.560 --> 00:35:17.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): that will build everything based upon 252 00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:25.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): whatever their answer is to that question. And one of my teachers to take that on being 253 00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:33.069 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the most recent that I learned from. And Chunker G. Says, this as well, is like this question isn't the most relevant question. 254 00:35:34.090 --> 00:35:47.880 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The question we can spend a lot of time like kind of prevaricating on. Is it one, or is it 2? Is itself another? Or is it just one? But maybe the more important question is like, How do I live? 255 00:35:48.850 --> 00:35:51.110 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The embodiment of oneness? 256 00:35:51.310 --> 00:36:01.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Or, if I believe in you know self and other, how do I live the embodiment of a relationship between or clarity about self and other. 257 00:36:01.660 --> 00:36:04.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And for me. That's what. 258 00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:10.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): in terms of answering this question, because the question was, what has my experience been with lineage? Is 259 00:36:10.220 --> 00:36:11.750 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I really wanted? 260 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:24.749 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Because I think, in part because of being raised in an Indian family and Bengali, and and ask me his family. I wanted to find my one teacher, and 261 00:36:24.820 --> 00:36:40.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I never really did. I never really did I? And when I did, that teacher, Shanker dude was like. Don't listen to what I say. Like you need to question. You need to to see and check. If this he he was a very 262 00:36:40.430 --> 00:36:42.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is a very 263 00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:57.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): radical teacher who says, Don't just trust. But I say, try it out, test it out for yourself, check it against all the other things like, find the divinity, the sovereignty within. And so my answer is, of course. 264 00:36:58.070 --> 00:37:10.699 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): shaded by my teachers and the experiences that I had, and being, you know, Indian and British and living in the United States. So I wanna kind of qualify that, because, of course, you may get a different answer from a different teacher. 265 00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:15.589 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): But I deeply believe that we can honor. We can 266 00:37:15.910 --> 00:37:23.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): trace where we learn things from, and then name the teachers. Right? So I've named to God. I've named Shaker to 2 of my main teachers. 267 00:37:23.850 --> 00:37:36.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): The other person who I learned from who's contemporaneous to us is Dr. Sham Ranganathan, who I appreciate because he brings a kind of philosophical analysis to say the Yoga Sutras. 268 00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:41.160 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so naming those teachers or those teachings and the lineages. 269 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:48.249 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): while also acknowledging that you have sovereignty, and you yourself are distilling and kind of 270 00:37:48.470 --> 00:38:05.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and pulling the essence of what Yoga is into your being, and then transmitting it? Not in a way, I think there is a very big difference between saying I thought of this or my brand of Yoga. Is this right not doing that. And so I think that's where we 271 00:38:05.620 --> 00:38:25.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): avoid the misappropriation is if we say, Oh, I've pulled together advice of Adonta and this and this and this. And now my brand is, you know, I don't know like sunkier. Yoga, let's call it right like that would be appropriation if you're branding it. But if you're just saying, here's what I understand based on you know these teachings from these teachers. 272 00:38:25.830 --> 00:38:34.270 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I think that's just good scholarship, and that's practice, and many of us, most of us are doing it that way. 273 00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:35.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): right now. 274 00:38:35.830 --> 00:38:44.679 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): At this time it may look different in 50 years, 20 years, or 100 years right. But right now that that is sort of the 275 00:38:45.250 --> 00:38:55.959 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): the. There's not one kind of dominant lineage which I actually think is good because it brings us into that self sovereignty of of learning. 276 00:38:56.100 --> 00:38:59.570 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): any questions on that? I've got some more. 277 00:39:08.200 --> 00:39:09.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 278 00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:15.410 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): okay, cool. There's 2 other questions. One was about 279 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.960 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Fabiana. 280 00:39:17.500 --> 00:39:22.760 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): which is oil massage or self massage? 281 00:39:22.860 --> 00:39:37.509 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And the question I love this question, was, I wanna read it? Exactly. Aviana, expensive straps, Spa treatment or easy self care we could use as an pilgrimage practice. 282 00:39:38.950 --> 00:39:43.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And II would say yes, both. And 283 00:39:44.140 --> 00:39:49.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so Avianga is a practice that is done in a lot of Ayurvedic 284 00:39:51.140 --> 00:39:58.000 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): context. You know everybody. It's a practice meaning a nourishing practice. 285 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Also can be used as a cleansing practice. 286 00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:08.210 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it's done by taking a natural oil. So a tri-dosic oil might be one like coconut or 287 00:40:08.600 --> 00:40:10.920 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or olive oil. 288 00:40:11.380 --> 00:40:19.079 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then rubbing the oil on one's body if you're doing it for yourself, and long strokes, and then circling on joints. 289 00:40:19.660 --> 00:40:36.400 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it is very much a grounding, you know. You can even try it right now, with no oil just taking your for Kapa dosa. So of the doses, Cupidosa, you can brush just, you know, firmly with your hand, or for a little more soothing, maybe, round your hand. 290 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.869 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then circling on your joint site to anywhere where 291 00:40:40.430 --> 00:40:48.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): shoulders, elbows, and it's whole body right? So you can do your head, face, ears. 292 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:50.559 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): neck, chest. 293 00:40:50.750 --> 00:40:52.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): belly, back. 294 00:40:52.580 --> 00:41:02.479 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): hips, legs, right? And so you're covering your whole body either with strokes, with oil, and it is very grounding, very nourishing 295 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:20.639 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if you don't have a lot of time. This were quick and dirty up. Young Guy learned from my teachers is top of the head like the Marma Point and Marma points are large. They're they're not like acupuncture points that are very specific, like a Marma point might be almost an inch 296 00:41:20.650 --> 00:41:22.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): around on your 297 00:41:22.170 --> 00:41:27.210 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): say, on your forehead or on the crown of your head, so massage on the crown of your head. 298 00:41:27.540 --> 00:41:33.269 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Here's pinching from the top. and then down. 299 00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:37.130 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): maybe rubbing up and down the ears. 300 00:41:37.180 --> 00:41:44.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then bottoms of your feet. massaging the bottom, scissors, feet. So this was my foot. rubbing 301 00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:48.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): up and down side to side each of the toes. 302 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:50.070 And 303 00:41:50.350 --> 00:41:55.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): It's a very, very grounding practice. 304 00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:57.359 The oil 305 00:41:57.450 --> 00:42:05.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is considered to be something that the scan your body is eating. So you're taking in that oil. 306 00:42:05.630 --> 00:42:11.519 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and is penetrating through the different layers the dots of the body. DHTS. 307 00:42:12.050 --> 00:42:13.060 And 308 00:42:13.780 --> 00:42:24.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so then, Ayurveda, you don't put anything on your skin that you wouldn't also put in your mouth. So not using, I mean, of course, if that's what you have, and that's around. Then it's wonderful to do it, but 309 00:42:24.660 --> 00:42:27.790 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): ayurvedically would would want to use a natural oil. 310 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:31.349 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and one that you would consume by mouth as well. 311 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:42.429 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then it also is a practice that you can get at at a Spa, you know, and traditionally, in a lot of clinics in India, and there are some here that do this. 312 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:49.670 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You can get Abianga with 2 practitioners working on you. putting oil on on the skin 313 00:42:50.020 --> 00:43:04.850 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): also which, where oil is poured on your third eye, point with your head back, and then massage through your hair. So it's beauty treatment, because it does, you know, make everything kind of glow a little bit. 314 00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:08.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): makes your hair healthier and shine. 315 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and also reduces stress. 316 00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:24.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and it can be in the West. And and I think in India, too, it can be a very expensive treatment spot treatment, but it has a therapeutic benefit. It's always intended to have a therapeutic benefit. 317 00:43:24.890 --> 00:43:27.419 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): at least in its original form. 318 00:43:27.970 --> 00:43:29.930 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 319 00:43:30.820 --> 00:43:43.280 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and so yes, I think it's both. And for us have been using. But you might create themselves just one source. Wow! That's so wonderful to hear. 320 00:43:43.580 --> 00:43:45.410 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And if 321 00:43:45.450 --> 00:43:50.420 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you have the opportunity, I definitely recommend. 322 00:43:50.860 --> 00:44:00.360 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): if if you can, you know there are, there are places you can go in India where you can do practices 323 00:44:00.470 --> 00:44:02.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): meaning cleansing 324 00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:16.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): or nourishing practices. And then there's also ayurvedic practices that are more cleansing which aren't usually done so much in the West so fully, but are done in India that include other things, herbs. 325 00:44:16.950 --> 00:44:23.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): certain things that we do to cleanse and purify. So you're talking about cleansing. That's like 326 00:44:23.670 --> 00:44:31.350 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): getting things out of the different orify different orifices in the body. So to those can be less 327 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:41.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like Spot day kind of experiences. and can be very, very powerful and very transformative. 328 00:44:42.340 --> 00:44:47.300 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): vidiogram is one of them where 329 00:44:47.500 --> 00:45:07.600 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I can recommend. I think they still. I haven't been there in a very long time, but folks I know have, and they they do. They're like an Ayurvedic training school in in the South of India. So this is like, Oh, this is really interesting. I want to explore more. That's the place you could go. 330 00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:22.940 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And then the last question was, please explain more about the yoke yoke Yoga collective that you're creating. Who can join as a practitioner teacher? How much does it cost. I would like to talk more about this. Thank you very much. Yes. So 331 00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:28.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): one of the things that I 332 00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:33.709 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm really clear about is that for Yoga in the West. To change. 333 00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:57.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we need to see and practice like we need to be able to practice with each other right right now. We meet every so often. We're all doing our work in our various communities. And there's not like a central place where I can go to find and practice with you all. And so I was like, we need that, and I would love to be able to have a place where I can find 334 00:45:58.270 --> 00:46:01.509 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): say a South Asian. Queer? 335 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:14.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): probably I'm a teacher who can help me when I'm feeling stressed or when I'm experiencing, you know, having trouble getting to sleep right. And I want to be able to look that person up and practice with them right then and there. 336 00:46:14.550 --> 00:46:30.650 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And so what you'll give it is is that space, the intention to create that space which right now it's taking the form of an app right? It may change, but it it's an app that will be a resource where teachers can put themselves in their practices there 337 00:46:30.690 --> 00:46:38.800 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then practitioners can come and practice. And so the truth is, it's information, right? It's getting created. 338 00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:54.579 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): My wish, and I hope, is that so? Right now it's being self funded. We've gotten other than folks donations which I'm so grateful for. I know some of you have donated we're self funding it, but I'm hoping to get funding from outside. 339 00:46:54.580 --> 00:47:15.140 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): If we can, then it will be lower cost or free for teachers and practitioners. If we don't get funding, we're gonna have to self fund it. So mean meaning folks pay, because otherwise, how do we pay the engineers right who are making how to play for the the cloud storage for hosting all the videos. So 340 00:47:16.630 --> 00:47:40.089 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so if I'll give you the scenario, because the one that I know for sure, right? If we get funding it'll be different. It could be different. But the idea is any Yoga teacher who is the first round. It'll be sort of like you sign up for a course. Take a course with me, and then you're like to to focus on 341 00:47:40.930 --> 00:47:50.449 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): all of what we talk about like teaching in a in a way that's an integrity with your values. Trauma informs gender inclusive all of those things. 342 00:47:50.530 --> 00:47:59.629 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then not just that, but like, guided and supported with how you might want to clarify what you do, share 343 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:21.620 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): what you, what you teach your values and support you in kind of that visibility and messaging, utilizing the platform. Right? So it will be open. I think we'll do our first round just to Ycc. Folks and people who've been in ytt. I don't think it'll be open to the public, but I don't know for sure. 344 00:48:21.950 --> 00:48:23.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And 345 00:48:23.710 --> 00:48:28.499 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we have a survey which I'm gonna drop in the chat. 346 00:48:28.720 --> 00:48:32.700 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Because if you are interested in 347 00:48:32.990 --> 00:48:35.200 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): giving more input on this. 348 00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:40.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): then hope that works 349 00:48:41.110 --> 00:48:59.890 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): this is a survey for Yoga teachers. We haven't shared it yet, so you all are the first folks who will get it. But at the end it's anonymous, and you can fill it out twice if you want to do one anonymously and one but there will be a focus group conversation just with Yoga teachers. 350 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:04.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We'll also have one for practitioners. But we're gonna focus on teachers first. 351 00:49:04.200 --> 00:49:23.870 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): where you can give your input for what you want for what would make this space work for you. Right? It's information. So really, we wanna I wanna hear from you. And we wanna hear from you as far shaping it. So I don't know if you so yeah, it is not a nonprofit. It's a for profit, mostly because my experience is a nonprofit. 352 00:49:23.870 --> 00:49:43.439 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Space is even more hampering than being able to do, you know, move a bit more agile. E, so we're seeking Grant type funding for for profits, tech investors, angel investors I would love to meet with an angel investor. I have a pitch tech, but I haven't. I've known to pitch to right because 353 00:49:43.440 --> 00:50:02.770 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I don't have this kind of contacts. I'm a teacher from, you know, a background and education that's been my contact. So I don't know any people. And there's no like trust fund. You know what I mean like. It's so if you know any of that stuff, I'm I'm very 354 00:50:03.020 --> 00:50:12.909 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): open, and and also I've come to piece with like, maybe we're just doing this ourselves, and it'll it'll kind of generate momentum and 355 00:50:13.830 --> 00:50:15.640 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and we'll create it as we go. 356 00:50:15.980 --> 00:50:21.430 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Okay. yes. Oh, I love this 357 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:23.520 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Karen 358 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:37.040 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): question about teaching the content of our monthly Yoga class curator. Course. Yeah. Do we share exactly as you taught with or without your audio, modify what you shared, create your own meditations that come to us as you practice other. 359 00:50:37.210 --> 00:50:39.649 I would love for you to do whatever 360 00:50:39.930 --> 00:50:48.009 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): feels sorry if you hear people yelling. There's people playing basketball now, I think, in the adjoining room. 361 00:50:48.180 --> 00:50:50.810 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): but you can do any of the above 362 00:50:51.030 --> 00:51:02.319 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you can share exactly as I've taught, meaning. You could literally take the words. And that's why we have them for you to print out right and take and go and teach that 363 00:51:02.550 --> 00:51:11.429 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): you can take your inspiration from the foundation. And my request is that you know you could say, inspired by 364 00:51:11.490 --> 00:51:17.629 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): some of the teachings with Susanna Barkataki. And in this program, or whatever right? So 365 00:51:17.670 --> 00:51:19.100 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so please 366 00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:23.860 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): take it and use it. However, best serves you. 367 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:26.049 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): That is the intention. 368 00:51:27.340 --> 00:51:44.059 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And okay. So yes. So the other thing that I'm really excited about is for folks who've been in Ycc. For the year, which is many of you here, and for those of you who are just started or came in a couple of months ago. Eventually this will apply for you. 369 00:51:44.080 --> 00:51:51.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We're coming to a close of that 12 year or 12 month container 12 year. 370 00:51:51.340 --> 00:52:03.359 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and I'm excited about re enrollment if it feels aligned. So there's certain things that stay the same like the foundational curriculum of the Himsa Satya, right the 371 00:52:03.370 --> 00:52:23.389 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): those cycle back around, and we go deeper and deeper. And then there's things that are fresh and new, like the way we're applying it in the office hours in the pilgrimage and Pujes, there's some fresh bonuses and trainings that just recorded for you. And then also there's the year end 372 00:52:23.430 --> 00:52:43.540 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): week, or a a part day like a half day. Mini retreat that we do, just for folks who are alumni that's really defining and connecting with the heart of Yoga for us, and setting our intention for the New Year. So there's and there'll be some other things that come through. And there's 373 00:52:44.040 --> 00:52:52.740 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): there's a special email that just went out. And I think if you haven't gotten it, you can. You can also write to us at Hello, at 374 00:52:54.890 --> 00:52:56.140 hello! At 375 00:52:56.970 --> 00:52:59.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): well, and then 376 00:52:59.370 --> 00:53:08.780 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): see if I can pull up the re enrollments. yeah. So we really 377 00:53:09.310 --> 00:53:13.230 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): thought hard about this and 378 00:53:14.110 --> 00:53:20.529 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): worked on it with a lot of care. So I want to just kind of name that because 379 00:53:21.330 --> 00:53:23.410 I'm not interested in 380 00:53:26.100 --> 00:53:32.309 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like, please, only we. So first of all, it's consent based. You don't get automatically re-enrolled. You have to 381 00:53:32.430 --> 00:53:35.019 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): actually enroll 382 00:53:35.150 --> 00:53:42.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like a lot of kind of these type of spaces. You just get rambled. We didn't want to do it that way. That doesn't feel aligned or right. 383 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:44.060 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and 384 00:53:44.190 --> 00:53:54.839 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I really believe in going deeper and deeper and deeper with the practices, with the same ethical foundations. And then 385 00:53:54.980 --> 00:53:58.609 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm different, right every time, every month, every practice. 386 00:53:58.620 --> 00:54:12.139 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): And the community is different. And the way that we're practicing and applying it. So there is the information on you're the class curator. Yeah, you're still welcome. We do believe that consent here. Yes. 387 00:54:12.450 --> 00:54:14.320 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): yeah. 388 00:54:14.350 --> 00:54:19.710 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): is the first place you see monthly issue. Oh, and then the other thing is for those who re enroll 389 00:54:19.900 --> 00:54:20.560 cool. 390 00:54:20.690 --> 00:54:25.179 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): We're not gonna do where it like trips out again. Because again, it's like. 391 00:54:27.230 --> 00:54:30.190 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I feel like there's something around 392 00:54:31.110 --> 00:54:52.549 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like sovereignty to. As a student. You're kind of deeper now, and so you have all of the issues. They're all available to you for that year, and we're going month by month by month, right? And you can travel through that. But also you may make different choices month by month by month. Right? So 393 00:54:52.700 --> 00:54:56.759 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): So we wanted to hold that like that kind of satika like 394 00:54:56.790 --> 00:55:01.510 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): returning, deepening kind of moving towards that 395 00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:15.829 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): mastery of practitioner experience. So any other questions? Time for one question, yeah. Okay. 396 00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:21.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): I'm interested in continuing enrolled in January, February. Yeah, you will. 397 00:55:22.540 --> 00:55:28.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): You'll be re-enrolling in probably January. You'll get the email 398 00:55:29.090 --> 00:55:33.979 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): a year from now. Oh, it's not a year from now, year from when you hold 399 00:55:34.250 --> 00:55:44.950 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): so, and that's how it will be for folks who come in cause. Folks kind of came in throughout. So whenever it's very personal. Whenever your year is complete, everyone 400 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:52.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): we'll get that that real moment. So you have no, no rush, nothing to do now 401 00:55:52.930 --> 00:55:56.910 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): any other thoughts or questions 402 00:55:58.830 --> 00:56:03.490 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): feel like we've traveled a whole world today in this. 403 00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:10.729 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): like theater gym, space that I am in, and I want to come back around full circle to, to. 404 00:56:10.750 --> 00:56:13.120 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to those synchronicities. 405 00:56:13.540 --> 00:56:20.580 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): to the coincidences, to the themes that show up. And sometimes. 406 00:56:20.610 --> 00:56:22.380 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): even though we're kind of like 407 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:33.469 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): floating on that river right and letting the themes come to us. Maybe there's the salsa, the clarity of saying like, I'm going to be 408 00:56:33.640 --> 00:56:36.030 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): practicing, exploring and this theme 409 00:56:36.060 --> 00:56:44.250 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and seeing how and where it shows up, and sure, maybe the divine, the world, nature, spirit, however you 410 00:56:44.570 --> 00:56:53.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): conceive of it, will come in and say, Oh, no, no! Here's this thing right now, but I'd love to close, just inviting us to take a moment and tune in. 411 00:56:54.210 --> 00:57:00.839 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Is there a theme that arises? Maybe one of the llama zoomas or another team in your life. 412 00:57:05.330 --> 00:57:10.949 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): and then, as we close, we can speak that aloud, type it in the chat. 413 00:57:11.170 --> 00:57:16.390 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): taking with you this theme, and we can unmute and speak it into the space together. 414 00:57:23.990 --> 00:57:26.739 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Mine is imagination. 415 00:57:32.340 --> 00:57:35.020 Andrea @alovincoven: Mine is Brahmacharya. 416 00:57:46.190 --> 00:57:48.940 Leaf (they/them): I'm thinking of. 417 00:58:03.850 --> 00:58:04.550 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Yeah. 418 00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:09.530 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Santosa, patience, Santosa, freedom and unity. 419 00:58:10.070 --> 00:58:17.209 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Rametaria. we can unmute and say goodbye. You could still speak yours into the space if you would like 420 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:37.310 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): exploring and playing and practicing. 421 00:58:37.870 --> 00:58:39.340 Janice @TheShiftIn (she/her): Hi, thank you. 422 00:58:39.410 --> 00:58:40.630 Susanna Barkataki (she/her): Bio.